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I just feel like if we think a guy is a gem in the 3rd, some other team will want him in the 2nd. All these mock drafts make us too comfortable, seeing great names we are thrilled to see in the 2nd and 3rd rounds. But if we are thrilled with them as a 3rd round pick, somewhere a GM is thinking about getting him a little earlier. I feel like Skatebo could go earlier, although AZ54, that was a good case you made regarding his drawbacks. They cut both ways of course, available to us, but lacking as a prospect in some way. But I like Saktebo on film a lot, and I really think someone will thinks so too int he 2nd round. Maybe I'm just having a tougher time internalizing that teams don't value HB as a position to draft high. I'm starting to get nervous now. There are total crap scenarios for us out there, I hope that's not how the board falls.
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I absolutely think Skattebo will be on the board for us in the 3rd Rd when we pick... because he lacks speed and that is the darling of many GMs and coaches. FWIW I think his 5yd burst is elite and pairs very nicely with his very good contact balance. That's why so many 2nd and 3rd defenders looking to join the gang tackle just grab air. Then he gets run down from behind 10yds later. Jeanty is very similar in how he plays off the contact but he has long speed. Scanning NFL.com team needs I see 11 teams listed as needing a RB. Like the Bears all of them have 5 top needs listed. There is zero chance all 11 draft a RB in the first 2 rounds but let's say 5 or even 6 teams do (one could be us but that doesn't change the question of if Cam is on the board at 72). Who gets drafted in those rounds: Jeanty, Hampton, Henderson, Kalen Johnson.... seems clear those are the top 4 in many places. After that it's a mish-mash of names on the rankings lists depending on where you look. Judkins is often listed as 5 but in reality 5-10 likely have very similar grades so it becomes a preference of running style/scheme fit/need (i.e. chain mover or big gain RB). I'm pretty sure all of those players are faster than Skattebo's 4.65 forty, who is going to be a chain mover. If all you want is a chain mover there are good options for that who are faster than Skattebo such as Damien Martinez. Certainly we could see 2 or 3 RBs go right before us in Rd 3 but I still think Cam isn't one of them. As usual all of the top 10 drafting teams suck. If you are rebuilding and don't draft Jeanty then there is far better value players at more important positions to help your rebuild in Rd 1 and 2. With this much depth at a devalued position it wouldn't surprise me if only 2 RBs are off the board for either of our 2nd Rd picks. That early 2nd range might be where the number of trades increases as playoff teams trade up for a key talent in the top 40 or 50 where there are still starting caliber players on the board. Depending how far they move up a playoff team is giving up a late 3rd or 4th Rd pick.
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Kaleb will be gone in round 2, Scattebo, I would think goes round 3. If the Bears cannot afford to spend a 2nd, I am good with Scat in rd3. I don't see him surviving more than 4 years of NFL with his gritty style. He also needs to drastically improve in pass pro.
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DA talked yesterday about he liked Spider-Man playing some saftey. Tyranny Mathieu played that role for DA in NO and he was pretty good.
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I think KJ will be gone but we pick early in round 3, very possible Cam Skattebo could be there. Draft Buzz lists him as a 4th round pick. Several have him 3rd and lower.
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Somewhere J'Marcus Webb is smoking a fatty and laughing his ass off...
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I think you're right. 10-50 are about the same. Should be all about fit and need, unless one of the studs falls...
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exactly - we got great value from that pick, but we did not get great blocking from him.
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Honest question, dont mean to sound sarcastic at all: Do you think Kaleb Johnson will be there when we pick in the 3rd? I dont. I dont even think Saketabo will be there.
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Exactly. The Bears Oline was so bad the opportunity for a 5th Rd pick to start in week 1 was wide open. To Braxton's credit he came in and earned it. The issue is we haven't gotten the growth expected in years 2 and 3.
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So many to choose from just within the 3rd Rd grades.
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there are lots of decent backs in this one. For me Jeanty is special, and I like Kaleb Johnson and Cam Skatebo a lot too. But there are probably 6 or 8 backs that could meaningfully contribute to an NFL team in this draft, but only a few are problems for defenses.
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I'll just say this - starting, and being starter quality are not always the same thing.
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I think the argument could be made for anyone projected to be a first round pick could be our #10 pick. My first choice is to trade back.
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Jeanty is a given but the rest of the RB room is a debate. Hell RJ Harvey or Dylan Sampson could end up being real good. It's not always the obvious choice. I'll hang my hat on Cam Skattebo.
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We all have our opinion and people we think would be best for the team. I think whoever they take at 10 needs to be special, not just a player that becomes a NFL starter. Braxton was an NFL starter day one and was a fifth round pick. Pundits are pretty consistent with 6 all pro player types available in the draft. A few say 8 and of course a few could surprise but I think if we get the chance, we will draft one of these. If not one falls then it could be 10 different players. In one week the conversation starts with the mistake they made by taking so and so at 10. I trust them to get it right.
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He's just an all around good player, imo.
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Which in my post I alluded to the fact this contract makes that something I expect Dennis Allen to do with TJ.
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It was talked about on the score this afternoon. Not sure if Clay Harbor was in on that but he was on to talk draft.
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I’ve heard TreVeon Henderson is very good as well.
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I'd like to read the article. Do you have source or link?
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The talk is to move Edward's to Mike and Edmunds to Will. Edmunds may not like it, but his size and athleticism are better for coverage (that Will LBs do more in Allen's D). As for drafting someone high to be the 3rd LB to replace Sanborn, it's not a priority in a D that is in Nickel 60%. They will use a 7th rd pick to get a backer like Nick Martin, Oklahoma St who can blitz. Kyler Gordon will see more time on the field being that CB/S/LB making plays like CJ Gardner-Johnson.
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If one of the main criterias of a RB is pass blocking, then LeQuint Allen is your guy . Draft Buzz has him rated by far the best pass blocker.
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its as if the best thing you could do would be to get a 4th round level pick in the 7th round. And while that IS good, it's still a 4th round pick. The best thing you can do is to put studs in positions where they can help you, and if that means taking a 17th pick guy at pick 10 because your next pick isnt until 39, then you do it. But I dont see Banks as a 17th pick anyway. I hope he is still there at 10.