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You're right, but 99.9999999% people believe the Bears should NOT draft the SECOND BEST RB in the draft with their first round pick.

He was a good RB, but has never been a brain when it comes to analysis. And the further away from the field it gets (i.e. player analysis), the worse he becomes.

I absolutely loathe the idea of moving OLinemen because someone else sucks or is subpar. We should have learned that lesson as a franchise so many times. Chris Williams, Kyle Long, Cody Whitehair...how many times must this be done before the lesson is learned?

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/news/2025-nfl-draft-top-30-visits-tracker-full-list-of-every-prospect-all-32-teams-are-bringing-in-for-meetings/ Add Will Campbell to the list.

Seem to be keeping things quiet. Aaron lemmings always does a running list of visits. This year he has 8 visits so far and only Jeanty would be a first round pick. Conerly and Dylan Fairchild are the only OL so far. The WRs are Isaiah Bond and Jaylin Lane 4.35 and 4.34 speed. Brashard Smith/ RB has 4.39 speed. Johnson is looking to add more speed. I looked up last year's 30 visit list and we drafted 4 off that list and brought in 4 as UDFAs. So the 30 visit list will hint at who they like. Last year we drafted 5 players and 4 were on that list. I'll keep you updated on visits. Does anyone have a better source than lemmings?

Feels like we have gotten a lot less intel on Bears 30 visits this year as opposed to past years. I didn’t go back to see what we knew this time last year, but as far as I can tell, the only visit that have been reported are RB Ashton Jeanty, OT Josh Conerly, RB Brashard Smith, LB Nick Martin, WR Isaiah Bond, OG Dylan Fairchild, and WR Jaylin Lane. There are conflicting reports on if TE Tyler Warren had a visit with Bears - I saw someone (maybe Tony Pauline) say that he had one scheduled then Greg Gabriel said that wasn’t true and I saw someone over the weekend say he only had one visit scheduled so 🤷‍♂️. Not only do we not have much intel but there really isn’t much to be gleaned from the positions for the visits - we’ve got two RBs and two WRs, but it one projected early round pick and one late. Martin and Conerly make sense as guys who were injured last year and the team might want to check out medically. Poles seems to be keeping things very close to the vest.

LOL dude, Im just saying talk about the player, not what some site has him ranked. Your opinion about him is what matters, telling us we are only fans and cant possibly know anything isnt an argument. A good argument would be "his footwork is bad" or "he plays too high" or "hes bad at handfighting" or something about him as a player. Not just numbers of sacks and pressures. Stuff you see with your eye watching film. Like to me Banks looks really smooth, while Campbell looks a lot less graceful. And then maybe you dont see it that way. So cool. Thats a discussion though. If theres something wrong with Banks, Im all ears. Or maybe instead you want to say why Jeanty or Warren or a DT would be a better choice. Those are all good arguments too. But all Im hearing is that some site has him ranked 3rd or to go after pick 15. Those are narratives, and right or wrong, they arent player evaluation. Also i dont think I watch film better than anyone else. I just watch it. And like a lot of people, if you look, its not so hard to see. Its just football. Weve all been watching it a LONG time. All of our opinions are valid if we just look and say what we see.

Bear pundits must not have much to write about, Bryan Perez reported that the Jets are willing to trade Breeze Hall. He thinks we should trade for him because he's good. The best year for RBs in ages We are already missing picks 4 and 6 He's in a contract year What a stupid idea.

You just go out of your way to start arguments. You say I only have other people's opinions( I respond )and you twist it into my opinion is King and everybody else sucks. Im done addressing stupid crap that comes out of your mouth. We ain't talking Banks at 10, DEAL WITH IT You're next response will be I'm sick of this or that you perpetuate to try to argue. I will respond to legitimate sports topics but done with your inflated ego.

Cool, so then stop telling us that yours is the only opinion that matters because the rest of us are just fans, but youre not just a fan because some expert says whatever. You have every right to your opinion. You can say what you dont like about Banks. You can say why you prefer another player. You can say anything you want except that our opinion doesnt count because of some expert youre quoting. The idea here isnt to win, its to discuss what we see, positive and negative so we can go back and look at film and test those theories, that way we all learn more and hone our opinions together, agreeing or disagreeing the same. If you've watched all this film (and yes I have too) then say what you saw that you liked or didnt like. Thats all Im talking about. You dont have to agree with me at all. That's all fine. Just say something about the player instead of making the argument of authority all the time. Because its not actually an argument, and it dismisses all the rest of us from having any views worth anything. In other words, forget who says an idea, just debate the idea itself, not the credentials of the person who said it.

Keep in mind there was something fishy about the arm length measurements at the combine - most OTs had their arms measure longer at their bowls and Pro Days than they did at the combine.

kenan Allen hasn't gotten a job yet , could he come back here? 1 year 8 million?

I think in the early rounds, 1 OL, 1 or 2 DL and a RB. In what ever order he feels good with. He may address S, WR, LB, TE but we have quality starters there for now. The biggest question is how do the new coaches evaluate our roster? We don't know.

Actually we both want the same thing, a quality LT. We have two players there right now that have questions. This is not a good year for LTs and I don't think Poles will reach for a player at 10. Banks might be the best tackle this year but he does not fit what Poles likes. I don't see him reaching for something, he doesn't look at it as having no one to play LT. I think he wants someone to slot behind Kiran because if Braxton doesn't get better, he ain't paying him 20 mil a year, he will move on to Kiran and the next guy.

I only have other people's opinions? I do exactly what you do, look at tape, read opinions, look at articles and then form an opinion. I doubt I would have got a degree in college if I was not able to do critical thinking. I'm retired and bored, I absolutely know that I have put tons of hours more time in to forming my opinion than you have yours . On here we've talked about other players and you would give an opinion and qualify it by saying, I haven't watched any tape yet. Be honest, how much time have you watched tape on Banks? I have watched many highlights and 7 games he played in. That absolutely doesn't qualify me for anything more than to have an opinion. I don't claim to have special talent watching tape , if I did I would have got a job as a scout. The only reason I went to college was to get a teaching degree and start a coaching career that I wanted to do because you have to start somewhere.( High school coach) Then my dad offered me a business at 23 I couldn't pass up.

Yeah, I would rather they kept Wright where he is and let him break out this year. Arm length is only one part of the equation. some really great ones have shorter arms. Longer is better, but it isnt everything. If they get to the 2nd round without an OT, and Ersery and Conerly are gone, I agree Grant could be the next name up. He is probably a 3rd round grade, but if there is a run on OTs, who knows.

Moving Wright has been suggested before but this should be his statement year ( that he is very good) and with 4 starters in place, I don't think they want to have 2 spots with questions. Poles has 2 drafted players at LT and IMO will draft a other to compete their in the 2nd or 3rd round. These are the OTs with arms over 34" in the draft Cameron Williams Charles Grant Emery Jones Hollis Pierce ( 36) Brandon Crenshaw Dickerson Teams will play someone with less than ideal arm length but they would have to be needy. We are not needy we have 2 on the team right now. I can see us drafting a Charlie Grant or Hollis Pierce in the second or third round over a less than standard prospect at 10. They are keeping the 30 visits quiet but that may have some clues who they like.

Stinger said something before, I really agree with, we could go into the season with what we have right now. We dont have any glaring holes. I mean LT yada... but other than that, we could go with Swift, but we hope for better, we could use depth and future players at almost every position, but this draft is about building to the future. It could go in any direction. And I will argue that this is the signal that Poles' "rebuild" is done. This team needs to start winning now. We arent playing for tomorrow any more. And adding 3 or 4 starting caliber players to the current roster will help a lot!

That is why no one can say they won't take OL, DL, RB etc. The only position we know they will not take is QB. The Bears are getting into position to build for the future instead of now. As long as they use their draft capital correct, next year will be even more unknown.

Funny thing is, if the combine numbers are to be trusted, Banks has short arms too and so does basically the whole OT class? But you're right that Poles has talked about wingspan before. I think he talked about it after he didn't pick Skoronski and took Wright instead? Who knows what the GMs really mean when they say these things. But you're doubly right that he wouldnt take a OG with #10. I saw a mock draft where we took OG Booker at 10. I mean, Im no expert, but that seems really far fetched, and to your point, ditto on any OT to convert to OG. If he takes an OT at 10 it'll be to play OT. Not predicting it, but what if they plan to move Wright to LT, and plug someone in at RT? That's kind of halfway between LT and OG. Maybe a guy like Booker could play RT?

For years Ryan Poles has said arm length is a factor when drafting an OT. There can be arguments about how others feel regarding arm length but the 3 OTs he's drafted as our GM fit his long-arm profile. I can't imagine he'll suddenly change for Will Campbell and I don't think he's spending a top 10 pick on Campbell to backup the IOL.

so obviously i disagree with you, but that's what makes horse races. If they arent going OT for some reason, then I think Jeanty over Warren. If the Michigan DT drops, he could be an option too. But for me, if Banks is there, he's the pick, even if Campbell is there too. If both are there and the Bears go with Campbell I will assume they know something I dont, and cheer for him. But if it was me, I'd be taking Banks. Youre right about Allen's influence too. I wonder who his guy is. I cant remember going into a draft with more question marks about what we will do than this one.

For me, OL at 10 will depend on who is there. I think Will Campbell is probably selected over Jeanty, Warren, and every Edge player after Carter. However, if Cambell is gone, then I think they would take Jeanty or Warren over Banks/Simmons/Membou. Now if Campbell, Jeanty, and Warren are gone, then Banks seems to be a Poles type of pick. So in summary, my belief is: Campbell, then Jeanty/Warren, then Banks. The wild card for me is Dennis Allen, will he have enough influence on Poles/Johnson to get "his" guy at #10 (Edge or DT).

you dont know that. your guy Brugler often claims we are taking one. I mean in between the times he says it's 5 other people too. They pay him a lot of money to what? Say every name on the list? What an expert. You dont know any more than the rest of us. We are all entitled to our opinions, and after watching Bears football for decades, I think I, and many members of this board, have educated opinions that are worth something. You dont even have an opinion - you just have someone else's.

I think we are all allowed our opinions here. You dont know crap just because one guy says something, and for the record, keeps changing his mind too LOL Also, you keep saying i think Im smarter than everyone, but thats not true at all. YOU are the one that thinks they are smarter than everyone - with a twist - you've got some guy you think is smarter than everyone, and you just repeat what they say.