Ed Hochuli 3:16

It'd work brilliantly if we lined up Olsen/Clark up next to Hester, had Hester catch it behind the TE, and by that time the OL can get there and Hester can get major yardage out of it.

We can score, but we a "stud" TE who can't hold onto the ball and our OC is such a b**** along with a few posters on here who don't like the idea of giving Forte a bunch of carries "because he's a rookie" and all that crap. You give your best offensive player the ball the majority of the time in the NFL if you want to win. End of story.

It doesn't? I bet you'd say 42-0 if the game was in Philly. Why? Because they're at home. Really? Thank you, Captain Obvious. But the Cowboys defense isn't even in the same league as ours. They can? I think you just said they can score a lot of points. Doesn't that require finding the endzone? Good call. I bet they don't even score 4 TDs.

Exactly. Let's be pu$$ies and not talk him out of playing if he isn't 90%. Nothing like letting the best weapon in football's injury get even worse.

Why didn't you include turning the ball over as a comparison?

I'm going to get ripped, and even I'm confused as to why I'm making this thread. 1. Derek Anderson hasn't looked too good, but they are paying him $10 million a year, and I don't think they'll be paying him that riding the pine. 2. Orton is a back-up QB in the NFL (just a starter here, and a few other places). If we are going to suck, we might have a top 10 pick anyways, and we may as well start rebuilding by picking up Brady. 3. With CW coming back as soon as possibly week 12 this year, draft another OT in the 1st round (or an OG) and he'll have a young line. 4. It probably won't take a 1st round pick anymore, it might just take a 2nd and a 4th, maybe a 4th next year as compensation. 5. Even if we lose a 2nd and 4th (where JA makes his money), we might be getting a 2nd or 3rd from Minnesota for compensation for Berrian. Thoughts?

I mean, you could definitley make a case for Rex to be a clutch player. In the last 5 of 6 games of 2006, the defense gave up around 24 points per game, yet we went 5-1 (the 6th game was the GB game, I'm not counting that, it was just an awful all-around game). And yet, Rex played so bad in so many other games. Minnesota x2 in 2006, Arizona in 2006, Miami in 2006, New England in 2006, and the first 3 games of the 2007 season (@ SD, KC, and DAL). His act just got old. I'd rather be going to games/watching the games on TV knowing what I'm going to get every day then having to be guessing if we'll see Rex or Wrecks.

Then again, they need a QB who isn't going to turn the ball over 2+ times a game.

Bennett was shakey with his hands in the pre-season. I'd rather have him see the field sparingly this year unless it's a blowout. There is too much risk of a fumble or a dropped pass. I think he'll be a solid WR for us for many years, though.

We have 2 things going for us: 1. It's in Chicago. 2. It's at night. Anything can happen when we have those 2 things on our side. I'm guessing 27-24 Bears.

Good news, but an injury like this is why I was hesitant to give Hester 4+ years with tons of money. I mean, one injury to his side (ribs, abdomen) or to a knee/leg, then what makes him special (speed, quick moves) is no more. Hopefully this isn't serious, at all. I'd rather him not play Sunday then for him to play at 80% and then re-injure himself.

What he said.

If it's bad, I don't want him to force himself to play. Manning and Vasher are viable back-ups, and we don't need a dis-interested AND a hurt Devin Hester.

Bingo. I will say one thing- I'm tired of Orton being given the chance to be Manning out there. We need to run the f***ing ball 65% of the time. It was Lloyd, not Clark.

Tell me how many INTs Grossman had in 2006, and tell me how many Orton had in 2005. And don't even say Grossman had more TDs because I'll take less TDs/less INTs over more TDs/more INTs/fumbles any day.

Same here. Then when we ask him if he loves when Rex throws 3 INTs and fumbles once, he doesn't respond.

17-0. It was 7-0 at the time of the fumble- a TD there and it's 14-0. Then we made a FG later and that could have made it 17-0.

He looks dis-interested out there. Letting Ayanbedejo walk coming into full effect, perhaps??

I know this may be looking too far ahead, but: I'd love to get back on the road to Detroit and Atlanta being 3-1, but 2-2 wouldn't hurt. To be 2-1 going into that SNF game vs the Eagles would be great, and the crowd will be pumped up. Philadelphia is good, and it'll be tough. If we can be 2-2 after these next 2 games, we could be 4-2 after the next 2 because Detroit is bad and so is Atlanta. So, 4-2, coming home vs a pretty good team in Minnesota, maybe 4-3. Then, we get Detroit at home (5-3), then Tennessee at home, and that might be a 7-3 final score, but I think we'll pull it, especially if Vince Young is at the helm (6-3). We have a semi-easy schedule looming, let's take advantage.

He isn't 100%. Our DTs are still, as a group, one of the best in football without Tommie. If he needs to sit out vs Tampa, let him. Dvoracek has been great, Harrison has been a pleasant surprise, and Idonije is relentless.

Zackary Bowman

Exactly. It's easy for Mrs. Grossman, I mean Bears88, to come on here and say that Rex would have completed that pass to Booker, or to Davis, wouldn't have checked down into a pass on the 3rd and 1 play, etc. But during the course of the game, maybe he throws 2 INTs and fumbles once, and doesn't complete that one where Orton threaded the needle to Forte late in the game in-between Garza and Beason, or maybe he does make that throw to Lloyd where instead of throwing it deep into a safety and a CB, he threw it short, giving Brandon enough time to come back and catch it for a 30 yard completion.

He's so predictable? The 40 yard pass down the seam to Booker was predictable? A couple of those slants to Lloyd were predictable?

First off, the only stretch run play we ran was a 20 yard run for Forte only for that moron Jason McKie to get it called back due to a holding. Secondly, that WR screen at the end that was almost picked was the play Orton called, not Turner.

Lovie approves of the play in the end. How was Turner's playcalling bad today? 6 tackles, 5 of which were solo.