madlithuanian

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/footb...0519-story.html

I don't think the barometer is stats and rating... I think it's wins. That's why Eli is a franchise QB and Jay is not.

So true... This is the setlist form the very first time I saw them in a tiny club in LA in 1990. They opened for Voivod, and Prong opened for them. They even covered Spinal Tap! http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/soundgarden/...a-63df5a13.html

I'm 46 , so I grew up with Soundgarden from 1989 until today. They were my favorite band. It's a sad day for rock. I listened to many a Soundgarden song after watching Bears games...either to feel the joy or the anguish.

Fair enough... Here's hoping you're wrong!

What if these horrible scouts collectively had Wentz, Mariota, and Winston as their 2,3,4...instead of the most questionable QB picks known to man in the last few drafts (what if they were the scouts/GM's of those teams...not needing a QB right now)? Then these "questionable scouts of ill repute" aren't so awful as you speculate. You choose negativity and doom at every turn regarding this pick. Dang man... Give the kid a chance. Let this play out. It's easy to be negative w/ this franchise since we've been virtually inept for 30 years. If we sat down w/ a shrink they'd tell us to move on from the Bears already as it's an unhealthy relationship... So, if I'm going to suffer with these guys, I'd at least personally rather take a perspective that it'll get better than assume the worst. Otherwise, why watch unless you are a masochist? It boils down to simple hope. I love what you bring to the table here with some very well thought out arguments and information throughout most your posts. I respect and enjoy reading your posts tremendously. However, with this topic, right now it simply feels like you are going overboard with an agenda of doom and gloom. You appear to be rationalizing negativity. It's easy to assume the worst since the odds are in your favor. I never thought you were the one to take the easy road. That's my job. I'm Simple Jack. I drink a glass of Lagavulin and it makes everything better...or at least dulls the pain.

Maybe Biegel slipped on some lox and cream cheese!

Oooh. That line-up is interesting. Would be nice if it worked.

I think we would collectively cr@p our pants!

Why not

Not anymore... 85 was 30 years ago...and the ravens almost 20.

I follow. Seems reasonable to me.

You can win the Lotto many ways. With one ticket or with a 100,000. A great D is like having 10,000 tickets... The odds are better having 100,000 tickets. That's what a Franchise QB gives you...

Hate to tell you...every pick is a risk... Granted, some more than others. But, it's all a gamble. Some just have better or worse odds of paying out. But...

Let's not The Ricky trade more closely resembled what the Vikings gave up for H. Walker back in the day. What Pace gave up to move up pales by comparison...

Life's too short to be so pessimistic!

I concur...

One bigger difference...Davis was drafted by Angelo, Shaheen by Pace. I like the odds of the latter panning out.

ha!!!!

That would be interesting if we turned a corner on that area, and kept hacking away at QB in some round on a continual basis. It would appear to be a wise move. At least, one that would prove interesting at least.

I disagree. I'm sure he was prepared for Trubisky being unavailable if Cleveland took him at 1. The logical conclusion of how things played out is that Pace felt the price to jump to #1 was simply too high to pay. But, to jump up one slot to #2, was not. Additionally, having Glennon in place doesn't mean anything other than having a veteran in place, and certainly far from "settled". There was not en enormous bidding war for the guy. We more than likely over-paid. But it's well under our cap space. Especially when considering the cost of the position in whole. Your point of loading up on defense and hoping Glennon is awesome I'm sure was the plan. ,,,if Trubisky was selected #1 overall. The dude finally made a move to improve the most important position on a pro football team. He made 2 moves...an insurance move to have the position covered by a veteran with some potential upside, and a guy he's figuring that will be the franchise for years to come. He may be wrong. But, he may be right. I am hoping he's right. Am I weary of this franchise? Absolutely. But, Pace has shown some either skill or luck in finding talent. I'm going to give him some benefit of the doubt here. You don't have to. You have every right to be negative and skeptical. I expect very little this season. But, I expect improvement. The following year, is where I start getting my expectations truly up. For now, I just plan to hopefully enjoy how this plays out...

Gotcha. Even so, which rook is always ready to play out of the gate? Glennon was a wise move. We have ton of cap space and it's apparent Pace (and maybe Fox) didn't care for what Hoyer/Barley brought to the table...

My guess is the #1 spot was simply too much to give up. I imagine it wold have cost next years' #1 and more... My guess is they said, "If he's not taken at #1, we're doing what we can to get him at the second slot barring selling the farm."

There is no real bad in losing money on Glennon if he sucks...we aren't cap strapped and the overall amount spent at the QB position is not too different from last year. It's not egregious. It's the cost of wanting a better option than they guys we had last year. And if Glennon is a stud, then the problem of finding a franchise QB is addressed. We hedged our bet. yeah, it would have been nice to know that before we drafted a QB...but there was no way of knowing that. Our QB situation I think is as good as we could hope given our unique set of circumstances.

If you win the lottery, you are happy. End of story! Keep both, unless there's and offer you can't refuse.