madlithuanian

Woo hoo! I promise ot use it wisely and how I think the Bears will use the pick...

I can't argue with that!

I personally think dog-fighting and cock fighting are wrong. Both are instances where animals are subject to cruelty for the pure sadistic enjoyment of the viewers. It's like a snuff film almost. We can argue that cock fighting may reserve more or less punishment by virtue of the types of animals...but that's a different matter. Hunting, in most cases is used a means to curb populations of wild animals that would go out of control since we've erradicated most of their natural predators. I personally do not hunt, nor want to. But I know many hunters and fully understand their point of view. Also, most the hunting brings food on the table as well. We are a carnivourous society and have been eating prey for eons. When done in this fashion...it is just a step closer to the wild than at a meat packing plant per se. Most hunters I know do not shoot the animal in question to see it writhe in pain. The intention is a clean shot to take it down fast. Bullfighting is also an odd spectacle. However, the animal in question is used for food and leather goods. Yes, there is a barbaric element, and I personally don't like it. Many countries have banned it. It is banned here, and I see no reason to defend it. Basically, I just don't see how you can truly compare legal hunting to your examples. The fighting of animals is wrong. Domestic violence is wrong. There should be punishment for both, etc. Just because you think domestic violence punishment isn't stiff enough does not in turn mean that the puinshment for dog-fighting is too hard. They are seperate issues. Sometimes cases of domestic violence are truly hard to find true facts. In dog-fighting, it's pretty cut and dry.

He should only be "allowed" to play if the league decides so. It is for no one else to decide. Vick can get jobs elswhere to help pay the bills. He no right to perform for the NFL or any other company.

We develop offensive players?

Agreed! But what the hey...let's get Cutler!

Until proven otherwise, I'm giving Samuarai Mike the benefit of the doubt... Stafford played games...and Singletary doesn't like those kind of parties.

I can confirm myself... Thanks!

Ha! True enough!

Balta, I'm willing to do more than one... I can do all 8 if you need... I'd still like my initial prefeence order, and I've added some: 1. Bears 2. SF 3. BAL 4. NE 5. PIT 6. DAL 7. NYG 8. SD And also reiterate that I'd love to ban trades/etc...it's too much that skews the attempt at keeping this real...

As I mentioned earlier...there is an element of premeditation. Most folks that get behind the wheel while intoxiated do not have any desire or intention of hurting someone. We all know the reality is that they could, but the intention isn't there. However, dog fighting in the capacity we are aware of from the Vick case is about as planned as it gets... I think that is behind much of the outcry...

Wow! You're a regular Anthony Pelicano! Good sluethin'!

That's just a sad list no matter how you slice it... Here's some more courtesy of PFT... http://www.profootballtalk.com/2009/02/08/...police-blotter/

Pick up the Pace!

Hopefully, without sounding too harsh... To me presendent doesn't matter. He is not being tried in a court of law here. This is a private business choosing to not allow certain behaviors. That they may have done so in the past is irrelevant. The rule is as it is now. This isn't up to a vote,etc... This isn't govt. Vick is not being discriminated by his race, religion, etc... He choose to violate US and state law, and broke the terms of his contract by shedding a negative light on the league. The leauge may do so with his status as they see fit. If the outcry from the public is harsh, then they will probably re-visit their policies. I think you're running the fallacy of "just because one crime is cinsidered worse and less is done about it, then less should be done about this crime". The key should not be to go light on dog-fighters...but to get tougher on other crimes like domestic abuse, etc...

Thanks you for the list! I had forgotten about 1 and 2! Goodbye and good riddance!

We open in Green Bay on Sunday Night.... But I stille agerly await facing them!

Man Chile...I don't think I was ever so livid when that happened... That was the cheapest shot in sports history... The football karma gods didn't take kindly to us. Not only did the scum sucking Packers KO our chances at being a dynasty with that move, they then got Brett Favre for over a decade to continue to poison us. I just hope some good karma starts flowing our way...

I just disagree.... Benson made his bed and he had to sleep in it. I contend the team and the fans were the ones that got screwed.

Nothing's ever free! You must wait around 50 minutes to make $1.00. Unless you're already on the web,etc... I thought the govt was just printing more money!

Wise choice!!!

Very eloquent! But what's your answer?

I actually think Brady is more a system guy than Manning... But I'm only really basing that on gut feeling... I think Manning would succeed anywhere. I'm not sure Brady does... And right now, there's a bit of a question on how healty is he. I go w/ the bird in hand... But it's like saying, would you rather have the gold coin with an eagle on it, or the one with the president on it? They're basically the same weight, so it's just preference!

That is sad...and scarily true.