madlithuanian

Connor, that's what this whole site is about! Your opinion matters!

Re Idonije, I just don't think we'll fork over money for basically a back-up. Unless he's willing to work with the team.

Manning Jr? I thought he was shown the door? Do you mean Daniel Manning? I think Ogun and Idonije are gone D. Manning may get re-upped if he does well this year. Same with Orton and Anderson. JA's probably done just that. But I do not trust his decision making.

Vent away! I completely understand!

I got lasek not too long ago, so I think I can see pretty clearly now! I don't need to look hard to find reason to be upset with how this franchise is run. It's like the big "E" on the eye chart, even Stevie Wonder can see it... I hated, and hate being a doormat. And yes, I think you're right that the culture will not change without a change at the top. I'll support the team, and root them on, but I reserve the right to complain about how the team is run when no rings have been placed on fingers in over 23 years...

Agreed. There are other stores than Big Lots! While Bloomingdale's seems to be out of the question even when there's a Labor Day sale, maybe we could shop at Target at least once in a while...

Agreed... I know the beast we are dealing with. But with so many glaring holes and so many warm bodies to fill those holes, logic would seem to dictate we go after a few more solid prospects than a 1 gamer bench guy from CAR... I didn't expect JA to do anything. But, it doesn't make it any less frustrating.

Fair enough!

Sorry if I wasn't clear... i think you guys are saying we're close to being a constant playoff team. I don't see it. I saw us coming close to the playoffs LAST season. This year, like last (check the posts...I didn't have us making the playoffs), I don't see us in the playoffs. And I want more than just playoffs. It's what have you done for me lately. And lately, we haven't done nearly enough. Getting a sniff of the playoffs choking to a poorer Texas team doesn't fill my heart with warm fuzzies. That after a year of complete disaster after being in the SB. Thankfully we aren't the Lions. We have won a Super Bowl in our past and never went winless. But, the Lions could very well get better (Millen is gone...). And we seem to be satisfied with the status quo. Sorry, maybe it's just me, but I am not satisifed being a pretty good team that comes close to the playoffs. I want what the Steelers are. A proud franchise that does what it takes to have a perrenially good team, run by good management and good coaches. Damn right I'm jealous...

I'm stumped... Does anyone know what the salary floor is? I'm starting to think we won't hit it!

A good poker plays wins the hand... So far, we keep bluffing with a jack high and only scare away Detroit from the table. Culture only changes when it has too. I don't even think it's so much about money...I think it's just plain inneptness at the top.

1. I admit I don't listen to Mully, but I do read what is in print when he writes. i think the truth is in the middle...lack of finding talent, and coaching deficiencies... 2. Gotcha... 3. I do understand your point. But I also think, without him, we don't make it to the SB. He garnished some respect around the league...thus opening up things for Berrian. I agree we overpaid. But I think in this instance, and looking back, it was OK to do so. If you were to tell me we could have had something much better instead of Mosse, I'd be disappointed. But I must give credit that we got the best guy that was available at the time. 3. - I still think that philosophy is one of failure and quitting. It is essentially giving up because you didn't like the wasy it turned out a couple times. I do agree that it's early...but most the big moves occur early. Omaliye is nice. But, it's not all that proactive. Tiat bowed out, Williams is still questionable, and St. Clair is testing the waters. To me, that again is reactive.

You make a great point! We seem to be far from reactive than proactive!

Oh agreed. it's like the news. You don't see stories about the guy who donated hours to help the elderly, you see murder and mayhem... And people tend to get more riled up in dislike than like. I just don't see that "closeness" you and Jason speak of. Yep, we were close last year to sniffing a playoff seed. Last year. Not the year before...or this year for that matter. To me, that's not a sign of consistency.

X takes a square! You are spot on dawhizz! It gives the impression they are trying! Now, it just looks like they've thrown in the towel!

I do a gree that sabotage, etc is on the extreme. And it's a sign that us fans are frustrated. However, we are for good reason. Consensus building? You mean our shoddy picks are a consensus of all involved? Isn't that an indictment on the lack of skill we have judging talent accross the board? Connor, do you honestly believe Booker and Lloyd were big names last off-season? Seriously. They are names we've actually heard, but not big. In fact, many posters here voiced extreme concern especially over Booker. I was one of the optimistic ones! We only know of Booker because he was once good with us back in the day and that Lloyd played in college for our OC and failed everywhere else. Moose wasn't a complete failure...he wasn't great, but he was a legit starter for a few years. To vow out of FA because of Moose, Booker and Lloyd is silliness. That is straight giving up and folding in the face of adversity. And w/ Moose, it's not like we didn't have the loot! We paid a lot, but we had money to burn! I do agree that purposefully sabotaging Smith would be beyond silly. But I think it's a grasp at a straw to instill some brain-power in Angelo thinking he's more diabolical than plain stupid. It's looking more like plain stupid...

You are correct.

It is Chile! We all want to be a big boy franchise, yet the people making the decisions seem not to want to play with the big boys... I swear, so many fans are starting to get upset. I see more and more negativity in the press everyday regarding this franchise.

No, I follow what you were getting at. I simply added my thoughts on top of that. ...and assuming we're somewhat right, that's a horrible way to be a GM.

"The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. " -Benjamin Franklin I'm guilty of the same...

Agreed chitownman!

I see deja vu... I guess the big question is whether JA is making the moves or if Ted is pulling the strings. Hearing the the lack of doing anything from JA, really makes me wonder how he's getting such a free pass. Telling us that he explores FA "last year" w/ Lloyd and Booker is like calling every fan a complete an utter dumbass. It makes no logical sense. A. That was last year, this year has a different group of FA's B. Those guys were far from impact players. Even before their hit our camp. We all had hoped Booker would regain some form and Lloyd would come into his own. But there's not a soul who felt it would definitley happen. Wheareas, I think most agree that Housh would be a significant upgrade. I think maybe JA does have it in for Lovie. He put him on the hot seat for the D and isn't givng him any more weapons on O or D really. He can't justify canning him without one more failure... I just find it a chame that if Smith goes, Angelo will probably stay. And I think he's just as guilty as Smith for our status as doormat. No one in the league has any fear of us what-so-ever. In fact I think they relish playing us like most do the Lions. That's what I get from other fans here in L.A.... Wrong or right, that is the perception.

Count me in as well! Unfortunatley, I don't see our GM doing it.

Good...at least he's not in Minny.

I like that better!