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I would love to have C Taylor (or M Turner). Either would make me thrilled. Taylor is more proven but Turner has the "jets".

So your backed up to your 3 and you put Garrett in to run up the middle twice against one of the best set of DTs in the game? What a horse shit call!

I am not going to judge him on the basis of what she says without a lot more info. Sounds a bit fishy to me. I will give him the benefit of the doubt on something that quite honestly sounds like a personal matter that does not need to be aired in the public at this point. She is getting publicity to further her cause be making unsubstantiated statements.

I just pray he comes out of the game healthy. If this OL plays like it has recently, Orton may have to be carried off the field before the game is over.

I agree, he should start the last 3 games to give him a decent chance to either prove himself worthy of being a Bears QB or so bad he needs to be cut. One game in one of the most difficult stadiums to travel to is stupid. I hope Lovie did not actually say that!

Not too surprised, hopefully he will play in the season finale. Rusty will have time to work with him if they keep him around in the offseason (I hope) If nothing else he would give us good depth. If he returns to the "original deal" he was when drafted, could be a great addition.

Thanks for the lists..... Not a bad group, void of big time Pro Bowlers that would demand BIG $$$ but the lists has many players that could be an upgrade at a reasonable cost while we draft a player to groom.

Interesting. So if he is not an OC, instead a TE Coach, even if they do not make a HC change in MIA we could hire Mularcky as our OC because it would not be a lateral move but instead a promotion.

I am curious just what will be available in FA for OL. If we can get a veteran OL to upgrade it might be safer than drafting a player and breaking him in. I was so disappointed with M Columbo. He was actually, I believe, an excellent draft pick by Angelo but eventually we had to cut him because of his health problems. Now he is starting for Dallas. If you could draft a LOT you were certain had the skills to start and contribute in his first year, I would invest a 1st rounder in him, if not, wait until later for a project. FA will be the key to our needs on the OL come draft time.

If a player gets hurt in the early part of the season (like Dusty) he can at least fully rehab and be ready to roll by the start of mini camps. If we continue to play players like Harris, who is already injured, for the sake of a meaningless win (as far as playoff implications) and he further injures himself, then he may not even be ready by the start of next season. Yes, I want to see the Bears win every game possible this year (and every year) but I do not want to risk the health of ANY Bears player that would then result in that player not being fully recovered and ready for action in 2008.

I believe Mularcky is OC for the Dolphins and one would think that their HC is on thin ice. If he is ousted then Mularcky would be released.

I agree totally, we know what we have in Harris & Walker, we need to audition others to see what they can give us in the future so we can better determine what we need to do in FA and the draft. This not only goes for DT but other positions as well.

Shame we couldn't get Charlie Weis to come to us from ND. He had early success there but ND had one of their worse years in decades this year. I am sure he will return again to get the program back on top but one could only hope that the directors of ND would pull a quick trigger and he would want to come back to the NFL. Again, I know I am talking out of my ass, that the cances of Weis being our OC is about as good as Rex being inducted into the NFL HOF, but one can only dream.

ROTFLMAO, I love the analogies...... The sad part is the one thing I liked most about Rex when he first started for the Bears was his mobility. He moved around great in the pocket and ran the ball well when needed UNTIL he got injured scoring a touchdown (I believe against MIN). From that point on I feel it was a situation where he is reluctant to exose himself to further injury by scrambling, which, if you ask me, is counteractive, in that with this OL if you do not scramble well, if you stand back there in the posket without the ability to escape, you are a sitting duck and eventually going to get yourslf killed.

I have been called much worse, LOL.

Agreed, our own roster cuts & resignings and our moves in free agancy (which I suspect we will be more active in than last year) will determine our draft strategy. I think this will be a far more entertaining off-season than last years. I see us being very pro active!

I speak only for myself, I am only one of hundreds that are a member of this site. I. like you have indicated, will go with whatever the majority decides. I am certainly happy here as is. I did go to the link you provided and although I had little time to explore the site it linked to. My first impression was that there was quite a simularity between the "appearance" of that site and this one.

Well, I would guess that "IF" Turner were replaced (and I would guess it is 50/50 chance at this point) Lovie would make the choice BUT I am sure Angelo would take a more active role in the selection, vetoing any selection he did not agree with.

I feel it is just a matter of gaining familiarity with the new forums. I loved the open format of the old board we just had sabataged by Sportsinfinity. However, the more I use this forum, the more I play around with the options available and learn how to manipulate it to serve my personal preferences, the more I like it. It may take time for some of us to adjust, especially us "more mature" types (sounds better than old farts, lol) but I do believe it will work out great if given time for everyone to "learn" the programs features. Just MHO

Is Turner that bad or is his failure also a by product of the poor OL play? Personally, I think it is somewhat the OLs poor play, but am less than impressed with his play calling. I posed this question in another thread but decided to start a new one hoping for some feedback. QUESTION - If we were to fire Turner (maybe some college wants a new HC, LOL) then who would you want to come in as a new OC? There is going to be some good candidates cut loose when some HCget fired and their staffs are released. ANY IDEAS?

Frankly, until we get our OL in order, I can not believe any quality QB would agree to come here to play, it would be a career suicide move!!

I agree, as I said in the Flacco thread, it does not matter what QB, RB, or WRs we have on the "O" if we do not have a good OL to protect the QB, give the receivers time to get open, and to open a few holes for the RB. I do not think CB is as bad as many think, he was met in the backfield more often than not before having a chance to get to the line of scrimmage. Our QB had been sanked/hit/hurried so much it is a miracle all are not on the IR. If the QB never has a chance to get his feet set before getting killed it kind of makes it a bit difficult to evaluate him. If he can not get time to throw then it obviously effects the numbers for the WRs as well. Then the BIG QUESTION in my mind.... DOES ANGELO & SMITH FIRE TURNER? IF SO, WHO WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE AS OUR NEW OC? I am sure there will be some HCs fired soon and there will be a few good OC prospects out there. Anyone got some ideas as to who might be available if the powers to be with the Bears chose to make a change?

I grew up in Delaware, took some classes at U of Delaware. Would love to see Flacco drafted by the Bears but only if we can take care of some other needs first, either in FA or the draft. Our OL is our first and greatest need. Unless we can get a strong OL it does not matter what skill players we have standing behind them.

Jason - DBDB....... Anything you need me to do just let me know. I have all the graphics from the old site on my pc including the flash gallery. I have many of the items from the old front page. I am a pack rat when it comes to the internet & my PC. I am willing to do whatever I can to help you out here at TalkBears. You have done a fantastic job in the lightning fast creation of the new forum and notification of the "family". THANKS!!

What did you have as your old avatar? Was it the #42 Jersey with your username? Or was it a different one you are referring to? I have most of the graphics I created on Bearstalk on my PC and if it is one I have I can email it to you to use here. That offer is for all of the gang from Bearstalk!! Just let me know what you are looking for.