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Caleb might be the GOAT of the future.
However, I remember other quarterbacks that GMs were drooling over, and they never made it in the NFL. QBs that received just as much praise as Williams prior to being drafted. The first two that come to mind are JaMarcus Russell and Ryan Leaf. Predraft, fans of their teams were already reserving seats for their HOF ceremonies.
Will Caleb be another Russell or Leaf? I don't think so. You certainly don't.
But one thing is for sure: success is not guaranteed when drafting any player, for any position, in any draft slot. That is as certain as the old adage about death and taxes.
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54 minutes ago, killakrzydav said:
I just saw that the decision is Warrens. Kinda scary tbh. Same with the forcing the coach on him. I hope this isn't the case. It sounds to Bear like to not be true. FML
I would hope that is not the case. No GM can do his job properly with that type of limitation.
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Good Grief, I don't remember so many EVPs & SVPs hired. Have they announced an SVP in charge of the toilet paper acquisition? Warren is going to have a staff under him to rival the number of scouts under Poles or coaches under Flus.
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20 minutes ago, adam said:
Here are the players lost from the 2023 roster that need to be replaced. It seems that they will have 5 picks to address these positions, so they will need 8-10 FAs. What is good to see, most of these guys were underachievers and are addition by subtraction (Whitehair, Patrick, Tonyan, Mooney, Jackson, Ngakoue, and Green) and replacing them with league average players would be an upgrade. The good thing is the Bears can add 3-4 blue chip players to replace these guys, that will feel like huge upgrades.
1. C - Whitehair > FA/Rookie
2. G - Patrick > Rookie
3. G - Feeney > Bates
4. TE - Tonyan > FA
5. TE - Lewis > FA
6. RB - Foreman > FA
7. WR - St. Brown > FA
8. WR - Mooney > Rookie
9. WR - Taylor > FA1. FS - Jackson > FA
2. DE - Ngakoue > Rookie
3. DE - Green > FA
4. DT - Jones > Rookie
5. LB - Cole > FA
6. CB - Blackwell > FAOUCH, That is a lot of signings.
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1 hour ago, Stinger226 said:
The Bears hosted Kevin Byard yesterday.
Does he have anything left in the tank?
I read he is on the downside of his career at age 30?
Also, cut for salary cap reasons? What will he demand?
With all of the safeties hitting FA, surely there must be a young stud on the rise.
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6 minutes ago, ASHKUM BEAR said:
Even JF doesn't know what the plan is and said he wishes this to get over soon. Poles has said he will be upfront with JF and he would be the first to know. That writing tells me the Bears are open to all scenarios and nothing is being leaked. If the Bears get a offer they like for either diection, they will move. Poles at the combine said he stays up late running scenarios through his head, undecided.
Since the locker room is behind JF, Poles has to weigh all aspects and the best route might be holding on to him and drafting CW since the trade cupboard is bare. Get a #2 WR at 9 if a top 3 is there and let the QBs compete. You have a veteran to let CW grow and the Bears can let JF increase his value.
Absolutely. If you can't get value for JF now, roll the dice.
Next year, before the trade deadline, a team will be desperate for a veteran quarterback to take over for their injured quarterback. That would be when we'd get the best return for JF.
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57 minutes ago, BearFan PHX said:
I said "with our actions" they havent said it with words, but you dont treat your franchise QB the way we have treated Justin. Compare to Arizona tweeting out that Murray is QB1.
... Apples to Oranges.
Kyler signed a 5 year 230.5 Million Dollar contract. He is due 35.3 Million this year. You had better believe that the Cardinals can't afford to eat the remainder of this deal. He is their QB1, period.
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The legal tampering period begins March 11 at 12 p.m. ET. Last year, it was then that we began to learn about some moves Poles was working on. I'm anxious to find out what he has in store for us this year. It will tell us a lot about what to expect when the draft comes about.
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My guess is that JJ and/or the new? QB will demand a new contract and threaten to hold out if it is not received by year 3 (assuming they are holding up their end of the bargain and performing at the Pro Bowl Level).
Surprised and Happy JJ decided to buckle and sign a reasonable deal.
Proves you aren't going to win in a 'stare down' contest with Poles. ?
He wanted to be the top-paid CB because he declared himself the best.
He got a damn good deal, and so did the Bears.
Here are the current figures from OTC.
I guess everyone on that list will leapfrog JJ on their next deal, causing JJ to want more money.
NFL's highest-paid cornerbacks in 2024 (average salary per year):
- 1. Packers cornerback Jaire Alexander: $21 million
- 2. Browns cornerback Denzel Ward: $20.1 million
- 3. Dolphins cornerback Jalen Ramsey: $20 million
- 4. Bears CB Jaylon Johnson: $19.8 million
- 4. Chiefs CB L'Jarius Sneed: $19.8 million
- 6. Ravens cornerback Marlon Humphrey: $19.5 million
- 7. Saints cornerback Marshon Lattimore: $19.4 million
- 7. Cowboys cornerback Trevon Diggs: $19.4 million
- 9. Bills cornerback Tre'Davious White: $17.3 million
- 10. Buccaneers cornerback Carlton Davis: $14.8 million
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Let's drop it before we start fighting again.
If need be, I can lock the threads or delete posts.
I really do not want to do either. It has been a good thread.
So again, please move on.
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Sorry guys, but I deleted the post offering a poll to decide who is at fault for the in-fighting.
Truth be told, many involved share the blame.
Having a poll will just cause further issues.
I don't usually delete posts, so I hope you understand.
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2 minutes ago, BearFan PHX said:
isnt anyone excited to have an actual franchise QB in Chicago?
Of course, We Are!
WELCOME TO CHICAGO QB DRAKE MAYE!
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4 minutes ago, BearFan PHX said:
this is so full of shit I dont know what to say Pix. Do better.
Youre seriously actually upset that I used the word "turd" once a few months ago? Really? Seriously? That's your actual stance? Youre NOT trolling? You actually MEAN that? For REAL?
LOL Im sorry that doesnt reach your threshold for respect as a person, i cant tell you how much it makes me question myself. LOL
You wanna threaten to ban me over this? Thats even weaker. Wow.I never threatened to ban you. You implied I was looking for an excuse to tag you. I assumed you meant to use my position as an admin to discipline you. I was just saying that I didn't need to play games to do so.
This goes way beyond this silly issue of using the word turd.
It goes to showing respect for others when they offer different opinions.
Despite you insisting you respect others' opinions, you don't.
Anyone who offers a different opinion to you, you jump in and smother the thread with multiple lengthy reasons they are wrong, seemingly trying to force them to agree with you.
Then you do silly backhand slaps.
For instance, you said Bear fans who like Fields were watching the Notre Dame vs USC game rooting for Williams to have a bad game. Really? I am a ND fan, as many Chicago fans are do to the geographical proximity. I was rooting for ND to crush USC. But not because of Williams. At the time of the game, I had no way of knowing we would have the #1 pick. Hell, at that time, I didn't know much about Williams. I simply wanted ND to win. When the Bears play GB, KC, or PHI, do you root for Love, Mahomes, or Hurt to have a good game?
If someone disagrees with you they are "silly" or misinformed, or need to watch more tape. You, maybe without really realizing it, constantly show disrespect for others with differing opinions while trying to tell them at the same time you accept that we all have a right to our opinions.
Talk about bullshit?
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PHX, I assure you, I am sincere when I say that it offends me when anyone uses what I consider unjustified gutter language to emphasize their dislike for a player. There are far better "intelligent" ways to communicate your dislike for a player.
I am not tagging you or looking for an excuse to suspend or ban you. If I really wanted to do either, I could do so without breaking a sweat. A few clicks, and it's done.
I am also sick and tired of you calling me out, claiming I am trolling you.
There was a time when I greatly respected you as a person and a devoted Bears fan.
I still respect you for being a devoted Bears fan.
I'm sorry to say I have lost respect for you as a person.
You have issues you need to resolve.
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1 minute ago, BearFan PHX said:
Youre offended that I called Justin Field a turd because he didnt fullfil his potential? Seriously? On a sportstalk site?
Youve jumped the shark.Yes, I find it offensive when someone feels they need to use such terms to express their dislike for anyone instead of using better judgment and engaging in intelligent dialogue.
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Just now, BearFan PHX said:
oh please. this pearl clutching is ridiculous.
A piece of shit is much worse than a turd. ANd you cant win debates by feigning being offended. Please.Yes, I am offended. I meant exactly what I said.
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1 minute ago, Pixote said:
Speaking of all forms of excrement, it's quite simple.
If you call my team's starting QB a "piece of shit" I am offended.
If you call my team's starting QB a "turd" I am offended.
If you preach to me the difference between a piece of shit and a turd, you insult me.
So please put an end to all of this crap.
And for those underage children who might read this forum, I apologize for the shitty post!
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Speaking of all forms of excrement, it's quite simple.
If you call my team's starting QB a "piece of shit" I am offended.
If you call my team's starting QB a "turd" I am offended.
If you preach to me the difference between a piece of shit and a turd, you insult me.
So please put an end to all of this crap.
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Just now, dawhizz said:
Maybe, but on the flip side maybe Bates would have just been released as well.
True. Possible.
I think Poles liked him enough to have him locked up for 2 years for a low cap hit and not gamble on losing him a 2nd time to a higher bidder.
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33 minutes ago, dawhizz said:
Seems like not a great look for Poles that the Bills got a 5th round pick from the Bears for their back-up C and then straight up released their starting C . .
IDK, Morse is five years older than Bates (32 vs 27) and has a greater cap hit (8.5M vs 5M). I wouldn't be surprised if Poles knew Morse was going to be available when he traded for Bates.
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18 minutes ago, BearFan PHX said:
Im still open on Maye, but Daniels is a one read QB from the film Ive seen. Unless he grows skills he doesnt have, hes gonna get eaten alive by NFL defenses.
I have seen several mock drafts where "expert analysts" (is there such a creature?) have Daniels rated #2 behind Williams. I, personally, don't. The thing that worries me about Daniels is his weight/strength. Watching the tape of him, he is so damn thin. The guy is going to get killed by NFL brutes.
I think Daniels is a fantastic quarterback prospect, but he will need a year with a trainer and dietician to work on adding muscle to his frame, which will allow him to survive in today's NFL. There's no way I'd start him in year one. For that reason, I now shy away from him in this year's draft.
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Do you know who McCarty reminds me of? Mack Jones. Scary! LOL
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Up until last year, JJ couldn't get TOs. Then, all of a sudden, he gets some picks. Those interceptions added a minimum of 5 million/yr to his contract demands. He insists he is the top CB in the league. I don't see it.
We talk about controlling the cap by resetting the QB clock. With Gordon, Smith, and Stevenson, the CB room, with a rookie prospect added, would, IMO, allow us to reset the CB clock. Get a good haul for him. Let someone else gamble that after being paid, he is worth the money demands he is looking for.
I like JJ, but it may be time to cash in and move on.
I'm sure this is not a popular opinion, but I suspect his play slides after he gets his big pay day. Maybe he will be like Kmet and prove his worth after his new contract. I'm guessing he will be more like Fuller and Jackson, who faded away.
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2 minutes ago, BearFan PHX said:
The morale issues alone are a nightmare.
Moral issues?
LOL, sorry, misread, Moral, Morale, big difference.
Yet another Caleb Williams Red Flag
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Are these the same analytics that had Zack Wilson drafted #2 and T Lance #3, or the one that had Young chosen over Stroud? The one that had Mahomes chosen #10 with Watson going #12?
All I am saying is that NOTHING is a given, even with the advanced analytics.
There are too many intangibles.