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I agree, but if we get an edge with #1 and a DT with our first 2nd, unless we scored big in free agency, we waited too long to take OL. We really need at least 3 new starters on the OL. And a real edge threat. Free Agency isnt usually great for OL, so we are looking a tad short?

In a way thats good. If we had, say a #3 pick, it would be hard to pass up a top pass rusher there. #5 to #7 is a good place to pick up a stud OL if there is one? Then again, we could go edge rusher with pick #1, and then spend both of our 2nds on OL too. Probably get a safety in round 3. Im speaking in terms of usual allotment of talent, I havent looked at the actual list yet. I cant do that this early! lol All of this assuming those positions arent already addressed in free agency too.

I assume that even having a top 5 pick would mean a good shot at an impact Offensive Lineman? I dont know what the crop looks like this year. Is there a QB that someone would trade the haul for if we had #1? Deja Vu.

Yeah I wasnt saying that about you, I was debating against the idea of him coming back, in this case because you thought Poles might, so I was saying why Poles would be wrong to. But I want to pick our next head coach from the full pool of talent, the best of which is currently coaching on other teams, and not pick from the best of whats out there right now. So Id wait for the offseason for that.

it's clear the roster has talent and Caleb is a star in the making, but the coaching has been really screwing us. Youre right about his stats. The only thing Id add is my constant refrain "thats because PFF is random"

lol - sorry I just had to do it.

Swift's 635 yards currently is only 16,101 behind Payton's Bear's career yardage, which I think is probably the Bears franchise record.

I think the great teams always have a TE that really contributes to the passing game.

I dont want Flus fired now either. Do it at the end of the season. Im just saying I dont trust Poles to make the next choice. If Poles is retained, I hope Warren is a huge part of the decision. ANd having said that, I think that means you gotta fire Poles, and with Cunningham in the wings, it makes it that much easier to do. I doubt we hire another Trace Armstrong guy.

no doubt Bowers is great, and your point about them being different in style and complementary is a good one too. I just think they couldnt sink that much value into the TE position, And maybe thats a mistake, too,

Im not rooting for the Bears to lose. Now that we have Caleb, Im not in tankathon mode. What Im rooting for is for Caleb to develop, and to win as many games as possible this year. All Im saying is even if we win more games I want the coaching staff gone in the offseason, and probably Poles too. ANd that is because I am rooting for us to win as many games as possible in the future. This isnt about me being right, its about Eberflus being terrible.

Bowers is a hell of an athlete and slot receiver even as a TE. i think that because we had just spent money extending Kmet, we went with a more traditional receiver. But I would trade Kmet for Bowers straight up any day of the week for sure.

I agree with all of this, but we need a new coaching staff. Just because the O wasnt horrible doesnt mean you extend this when Kingsbury, Johnson, Kubiak or whoever is waiting in the wings. You dont just need to get better than awful - you need to chase greatness and that means upgrading people. In other words, dont compare Flus/Brown to Flus/Waldron, compare it to the Lions or the Redskins offense. Compare it to the top 5 teams in the league. Going from 29th to 15th isnt the goal. Going to #1 and bullying the f*ck out of the league is the goal. We need coaches who are winners.

Nah. Winning a game despite mistakes isnt the same as not making mistakes. Flus makes a ton of them. Winning 1 or even 5 games doesn't change the fact that he is terrible with situational football. I am learning to understand you. I see you are always loyal and always an optimist. You always root for the guys on the team to succeed. I'm rooting for the what's best for the team too. And once I see a player or a coach isn't good or has some problem I want it fixed or replaced for the good of the team, whereas you want them to win some games so we can say they are no longer broken. For example, if injury had forced Nate Davis back out on the field, and he'd had a good game that wouldnt make me think the problem was solved. Id still know we need to move on from him. If Jenkins plays the rest of the season without injury, I still cant sign him as my starter and depend on him next year. Sometimes once someone shows you who or what they are, a few contrary performances wont change the underlying truth. You say the team bought into Eberflus this week. I say they rallied because Waldron was gone and bought into each other. And it worked. The team beat the Packers. Then Flus got scared and didnt run another play to get the FG closer, the kick was necessarily low as a result of that overly cautious decision, and the Packers were able to block it because of that. So Flus lost the game that the team won. Again. He's not a plus for Poles. I said in the offseason that Flus was not the guy. It was already obvious, and not just to me of course. We saw him blow those 3 games last year with over cautious play at the end. Same with the hail mary. Same with the 50 yard TD run at the end of the half last week. Keeping Flus was a mistake, and it was easy to see that back in January. This isn't a case of 20/20 hindsight. So no, Poles doesn't avoid criticism of that insane decision. Apparently Warren was arguing with him about it. And Poles was too loyal to Flus. So now Poles' butt is on the line too. And I don't want him choosing the next head coach. Get that wrong and you lose everything. I dont want the friendliest guy in the room, or the tamest. I want someone to bring discipline and accountability to this team. You cant win without it. So I dont just want to fire Flus, I want to fire Poles too. Not that he necessarily deserves it, or was that bad, but his decision to keep Flus was a big mistake, and now you need someone to make the call on the next guy, and you cant give that to a guy who just screwed it up so monumentally. Poles bears some responsibility for Getsy and Waldron too by the way. I'd roll with a promoted Ian Cunningham, and keep the scouting staff together, and start over with the coaches. Find the right head coach, and let HIM bring in his OWN coaches.

Totally agree, but when he kept him last year, then it became his decision.