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SO far the top three went in order, not to the teams expected necessarily but the board is the same. Now at pick 4, new England is the first possible landing spot for an OT. THis is a big pick.

I just mean Cunningham keeps Poles from getting too nervous and trading up.

Here's something to chew on: Does the fact that Jacksonville didn't hire Ian Cunningham make it less likely that the Bears will trade up for Jeanty? I remember Cunningham keeping Poles from trading up for Odunze. If he wasnt here this year, maybe Poles would be more untethered? And the irony is that rpoerts say we are talking to the Jags about a trade up. And like I just said, talking and doing are two different things. But if Jacksonville have Cunningham at GM, would it have made a Bears trade with them more likely? Irony! lol

I want the beef, but the kid in me wants Jeanty.

Poles doesnt really hae to leak it. If you think about it, this is the guy who interviewed a thousand coaches when he knew it was Ben Johnson all along. He is definitely thorough. He's also said the phones have been ringing. So my guess is that he was in talks with everyone asking the price to move up, to move down etc. Not because hes going to do it, but just to have all the data for any scenario. So then a bunch of GMs talk to eachother, and they share the info that Poles is feeling around. Then Schefter hears it and reports it. So it's TRUE, but it doesn't mean Poles is actually doing anything either. That's my guess.

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I don't know Winston, but I believe you. I guess he and Simmons are in somewhat of the same position, and both available to be sure. I know about 50 or 60 players. 35 or so near the top, and then some favorites sprinkled through the rounds. There are lots of great 3rd round and lower guys I've never heard of. I know Poles has! But if he's a stud at S, and we have a year for him to rehab and get well before needing him next year, that's a plus for sure.

I really like S Malakai Starks - he wont be there in the 2nd, but in mocks he is sometimes. If the right DL is there, you gotta take em, but I love Starks' game too. He's a real ballhawk who can hit too.

I want the OT, but I totally get the love for Jeanty, and if that's what happens I'm gonna love him. i just think if you do that, you might have to trade the 2nds up into the bottom of the first round for an OT, at maybe pick 20. And I hate that! Then again, if all we got was Jeanty and Ersery or Simmons (with a good bill of health?) that's still be a pretty damned good Draft. But would Banks, Kaleb Johnson or TreVayon at HB, and a 2nd round pick on defense be better? Thats how much better I think Jeanty has to be. And maybe he is!

Not all risks are the same. The odds that Banks will be great in the NFL are better than 50%. If they draft Banks, he will start on day 1. Even if hes better by game 9 than he is in game 1. He will still start. We are comparing the risks of Banks becoming a dominant LT vs Amagadje becoming one? And you're saying because there are risks on both sides, it's even? All risks are the same? I feel like we've been over this ground before.

I agree, and he may even want OL anyway.

I agree it means nothing. Im saying that you can see how it was "true" that Poles actually did discuss the price of moving up, which generates a Schafter report that isnt a lie, but neither does it signal ANYTHING about what Poles will do! So it's true and worthless all at the same time. Schefter isnt lying, it just doesnt mean anything.

I worry that Jones wont be ready for mini camp with his injury, and while I do give Kiran a pass for last year, he hasnt yet shown anything I can hang my hat on to say "sure he can play LT" We beefed up the rest of the OL, it seems like the job is unfinished if we dont fix this last piece, and protecting Caleb is paramount this year.

i dont think this is Poles leaking information, not if hes serious about it anyway, maybe as a smokescreen. But most of these reports are reporting on rumors going around in NFL circles. If a rumor is going around between GMs, it might leak that the Ravens GM heard a rumor about Chicago for example. It doesnt affect them, but its stil a rumor. But is it true? Who the hell knows. These GMs do call eachother and feel out prices for different moves, and Poles did say the phones have been active, so maybe hes been exploring prices on trading up - not because hes going to, but just to do his due dilligence so he knows the price of all his options. Then several GMs are talking and all say Poles asked about that, and then it "leaks" out - but no one can say this is what he WILL do of course! And that includes Poles himself. If he told the truth about his intentions for the draft to any of us, he might still go another way depending on how the draft falls. For example NO ONE thinks the Bears will take Travis Hunter. But if he fell to 8 or 9 might we consider something? Wed THINK about it for sure. No one is predicting that, including Poles himself, but if it fell that way, he'd think about it.

yeah he said this one was "wild" and I believe it - I think this is the murkiest draft I can remember. Its a fun one for sure.