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Well said. I wouldnt fight to the death for DA, but if it was my call I'd keep him, for all the reasons you just listed.

The current players dont match ANY scheme. They are "built" for Cover 2 zone but they dont have a pass rush to make that work. They are too slow for man to man, and when we blitz 7 no one gets home. I dont think there is a single player on our defense that we couldnt live without. Some will stay, and some will go depending on replacement options and trade interest etc, but I see a lot of turnover coming for our defense this offseason. I'm gonna say at least 5 new starters not currently on the roster by midseason. Could easily be 7 or more.

right! DJ is a talented WR, but he is just way too expensive.

not really? they were unable to stop the Lions from eating up tons of clock, and scoring. The offense might have looked better if theyd had the ball to get into a rhythm. And then there is the eye test. We were terrible. If the Lions had been down 21 points coming out of halftime, they clearly could have scored that many if they needed it. Im not giving the offense a pass here, but the defense stunk. Like extra stinky. One of the worst defensive performances ive ever seen. Right up there with last week against SF and the week before against the Pack. When your opponent is up two scores, you cant point to their offense slowing down as a product of our defensive play. They didnt punt much.

The idea isnt that Moore is bad - no one is saying he has to go because he is terrible! The argument is that he is redundant with all the WRs we have, and especially with Luther Burden. Does DJ Moore add something? Absolutely! But we are paying him $28.5M a year! And since we can play without him, that money needs to go to the D line, as well as any picks we might get from trading him. His 682 yards for $28.5M = almost $42,000 a yard. Come on. It's not that 682 is so bad, its that $28.5M is too much! We simply cant afford to pay $28.5M a year to a guy who is a luxury when our defense is made of tissue paper. So no one is saying that Moore sucks or dosnt bring something, it's just too much value at one position and not enough at others?

The offense was silent for the first three quarters, and the defense was AWFUL. Did the defense lose this game? Yes. Did the offense suck? Yes. No excuses should be made for either squad.

right. someone would trade for DJ, the question is what they would trade, not whether there would be a market.

Oh boy, I really want this win. I hate the Packers. After that, if we have to lose in the next round, I'll accept it and call the season a success. But there has got to be some tricky shit we can pull on defense. There has to be something. Also, all these comebacks are great, but theyre starting to put a story into everyones mind that its ok to sleep through the 2nd and 3rd quarter. BJ has to disavow them of that. I bet there will be a lot of shakeup on this roster this offseason, especially on the defensive side. They have to move on from a lot of awful players. But just this one week. Please. Let's kill them. I wanna destroy the Packers.

Trade with Raiders or Browns: JJ, DJ Moore, Sweat, and they HAVE to take Jarrett and Deyo too for Crosby/Garrett and a 3rd It's a joke, but to get all those players off the books, it'd be pretty sweet.

Kmet is right on the edge of his cap number, but he does do some good things for us. If they think they can get what he gives them from another younger cheaper guy, I support them moving him. If they think he's worth it, I'll understand that too. Players I'd seriously look at trading, cutting, not resigning or demoting to backup include Jaylon Johnson DJ Moore (trade only, cant cut him) Tremaine Edmunds Montez Sweat (if you are replacing him with a stud) Andrew Billings Grady Jarett Joquan Brisker Dayo Odeyingbo Nick McCloud Devin Duvernay Gervon Dexter Core Players for next year: Caleb (2) The OL (1xR) Coleston Loveland (R) Rome Odunze (2) Luther Burden (R) Monangai (R) Maybe Swift too Offense = 4 rookies core players, 2 x 2nd year players Austin Booker (2 - not a DE1) Kevin Byard TJ Edwards? Defense = 1 second year player, no playmakers I think it's going to be a wild ride on the defensive side of the ball this offseason - I would expect surprises and a lot of activity.

We blitzed and didnt get there. Not having a pass rush is what lost us this game.

Edmunds is out, Jackson is in - suddenly D is better, I mean not grteat, but a big difference

Whether you trade or cut JJ, you get at least $7M on the cap we were better earlier this year when he was out.

Kmet with the tough hit, holds on - great

great cuts by swift

here we go!

Jesus - Swift was getting the ball, and didn't know where to line up. On your own play.

It was Campbell's ego - wanted to "outcoach" Johnson, and shot himself in the foot.

Did everyone else quit?

OK Caleb - show us all who you are - again.

amazing.

Not surprised at all. Dime from Caleb too. But can the defense get stops? Yikes.

DJ. You gotta fight for that.

I think we may be missing Trapilo more than we realize. And also, in breaking news, we have no defense.

a couple bad things, and then sitting cold for another 20 minutes. They could well come out hot in the 2nd half. But does anyone think the defense could possibly show up at halftime?