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Velus Jones sucks. He is a liability. Cut him immediately.

I agree, they signed him at the value of about the 10th or 12th best DE, given that they all dont get resigned in the same year. Still, I wanna see him feasting.

youll be mostly happy with Bagent, hes played very well.

me too - I thought he'd be the starter after the preseason, was surprised they went with Herbert.

Ha i spoke too soon. 2nd and long - and then just as I am typing this... Foreman with the big run!

There have been some mistakes, but overall, the offense seems to keep making positive plays. Making first downs, and avoiding 2nd and 3rd and long. I want to see Fields play out so I can give him the last chance to take the QB job, but if I had to win a single game right now, Id start Bagent.

Fun stat from the TV broadcast. Bears are -37 points in the 3rd quarter, worst in the league. That means getting your butt kicked on halftime adjustments. Thats on the coaching.

Sweat finally has some impact. Good to see. We need a lot from him for all that $.

everyone misses a kick now and then, and if youre gonna miss, the best way is to doink - its the closest to making it.

Bagent sees the blitz presnap, audibles out of the play, and into a screen that actually WORKS because the defense wasnt set for it. Thats good QBing.

I totally understand your thinking. But I dont think Getsy survives, and so its gonna be something new anyway. I also (and you may disagree with this) think that Fields will never be an NFL QB. He's an incredible athlete, but he doesnt do the things we see Bagent showing us in terms of fast decisions, throwing with anticipation, general tempo and understanding situations - audibles, defensive weaknesses etc. he will have more games to prove me wrong this year for sure. Now I REALLY like Bagent. I worry about his long ball arm, but I have read that arm strength can be increased and developed. I dunno if thats true, but if it is, I can see Bagent becoming something great in the future. If not, hes the best backup in the league. maybe even now. But all things considered, I truly think that we have two top picks, and there are a bunch of QBs this year considered to be good, so I think you realistically have to take one int he first. Maybe not at #1. Maybe you like a guy like Penix or McCarthy in the middle of the first round. I dunno. But we would be bringing in a new QB with a lot more around them than any Bears QB has had in quite a long time. So to my way of thinking, until you have a top 5 QB, you are always looking for one.

Look at Billings' strength blowing up the power big set from NO.

I've been high on Bagent's ability since the beginning - I just think it's early to call him your franchise QB. There are questions around his arm strength on long passes. As for Fields, we will just agree to disagree. But Im not putting a ceiling on Bagent, but neither am I going into next year with him as the presumed starter without a top pick rookie behind him.

yes first down. GREAT effort and athleticism by Bagent.

terrible spot by the lady ref. Bagent reached the marker!

great cut and YAC for Mooney!

yeah I loved the call on 4th and 1 too. Bagent did a lot of subtle things to manipulate the defense on that drive too. As one example, he twitched Mooney open on the first play.

We'll see..

It's a great move. In the long run we will want to be building thru the draft, but having gotten rid of the previous roster and with having so much cap space, these are the right moves to make for now. And Im with you, DJ Moore and Montez Sweat, that's some good stuff right there. We need a QB

well said.

I totally agree with you about Sanders. I don't want him as a first round pick at all. I havent seen much of Penix myself, but I have a friend who says he is the best QB in the draft. I'd have to see it for myself to make a judgement. My friend could be wrong. He knows football and has watched a lot of it, but I dont take any of it on faith of course. I worry about Williams too. In fact I dunno if any of them are sure fire winners. Athleticism is fine, but I want to see Bagent like production from a first round pick. I wanna see fast reads and throws with anticipation, and instead I see a lot of college superstars who look like Justin Fields. Now to be sure, college is a different game, and some of these QBs will mature into the NFL and become greats. I just dont know how the hell to guess which ones unless I see evidence of it in college, and you almost never do. I get why this is hard for NFL GMs.

I think I like this latest one best. I mean getting Williams at 13 or whatever is cool, but will never happen. Also, I just want to say youre a draft animal, and keep the opinions coming. All you need now is a helmet haircut and you can beat Mel Kiper at his own game! I'll be listening to what you say about 3rd rounders etc more closely because of all the time youve put in. Thanks!

I agree. With cap inflation, it might be 16 or 17, but highest paid? no thanks.

I think you're right. Yuck.

Yeah, I dont even know what i think about him. Part of me loves him, part of me thinks he would eventually blow everything up.