BearFan PHX

absolutely. there are a lot of good players on this roster that we cant really see because of the playcalling etc. I think with a new start this team will be better than some people expect them to be - and that will happen faster than expected too.

another example. just stop already. people havent noticed what youve been doing. I put up with it, then I warned you, and then finally when I responded, people noticed. This board is full of examples of you doing this AND of me trying to be kind to you and bury the hatchet. I could post numerous examples. But I am a grown man, and I will have healthy boundaries. So if you mean what you say, then just stop, and then youll notice that I have NO desire to fight here. In fact, you can find examples from the last couple days where i went out of my way to agree with you just to TRY to stop this. But if you think I'm gonna slink away and be anyone's b*tch then you reeeeeally dont know me. I assume we are all grown men here, and with that comes mutual respect. That's all I am asking for, and I will accept nothing less. As I said before, its often the player that pushes back that gets the flag - I get that.

I love your first two drafts. Getting MHJr and McCarthy or Daniels would be amazing. But I cant see how either of those QBs fall as far as the draft simulator allowed them to? Id be ecstatic if that could happen.

good example of what not to say.

this is what Im talking about. Its constant. I suppose other members arent seeing it - its just that I finally pushed back. I know sometimes the guy that pushes back gets the flag.

I agree. Poles has done a great job stocking the defense. I think the defense is succeeding despite the playcalling, and not because of it. GIven the soft zones weve been in to lose games at the end, I cant really share the optimism on Flus, but yes the defensive roster is looking pretty good, and I see good things ahead for the D.

That's not the problem. Anyone can disagree with me. I fully admit that I cannot prodict the future, I cannot say where Fields will be next week. The problem is he's been putting all this snide personal stuff in his posts, and I let it slide for a good long time. Now Im just putting healthy boundaries. If you go back youll see that many times I have gone out of my way to be nice to him, to agree with him where I can, Ive tried burying the hatchet with him more times than I can count. If he truly thinks that I hate Fields just so i can be right, I dont see how that is disagreeing with respect. Anyway, Im not here to fight. Anytime anyone wants to disagree with me in a normal way, it's fine by me. And if someone is acting childishly, we all have our limits of patience. Either way, I am not looking to inflame anything, if that helps.

Its so weird that you think this is about my ego. Youre watching a really bad QB who cant move an offense and youre calling him great. Youre wrong - its idiotic. And then to think that I have some emotional issue hating Fields because I can see what a turd he is right before my eyes? And then youre so butthurt and silly trying to pick a fight. Dude, youre humiliating yourself. Fields is everything Ive said he is. Anyone can see it. You think he was a hero this game? LOL Im really just astonished at that. It's the emperor's new clothes and youre fawning over the stitchwork - yikes.

exactly, but Stinger wants us to think Fields won it in the end and Flus' defense is the reason - bring em all back! It's the craziest, wrongest thing I've ever heard. How you watch that game and come away with that is pure delusion.

Bears win. We all lose.

lol @ the announcers "a really great job of Justin Fields hanging in the pocket" I swear, announcers, sportswriters and PFF are all liars. And it's not like Troy Aikman doesnt know QBing. It's just the way the product is sold.

LOL they dont even try to get a TD from there. Can we put the Fields talk to bed now?

could you imagine? he might.

lol

There ya go. Signature. Hero ball turnover. No joke: I would rather start Trubisky on the next drive if there is one.

Fields isnt dumb. He knows that this play calling means they dont trust him too. OMG another screen. Fields must be so humiliated / angry.

Yup - touchdown MIN. Textbook Cover 2 as well - look at the replay. It looks just like it does on the chalkboard. No twists, not games, perfect vanilla cover 2 spacing - attack the middle seam with a TE - touchdown. Let Urlacher (or Edmunds) run with the seam route, it's a totally different outcome. Tampa 2 > Cover 2 Flus!

for sure thats the upside of it, increase his trade value. But we'd better not be thinking about keeping him. That kool aid is poison.

and the sportswriters will use those stats to create this whole narrative that just confuses people into thinking we should keep him for another year. Because the question "keep him or not?" makes great headlines and articles and gets clicks. But if youre watching the game, the decision has to have been already made. His own coaches dont want him, and that's clear from the play calling.

UGH that is exactly what Im talking about. You have the field goal to go up two scores, Fields tries to play broken play hero ball, which works some percentage of the time and is very exciting, but a good defense will punish you for it too. It's high risk, medium reward. A bad bet, especially there. You give Fields just a tiny bit of responsibility and this is what he does. THeres a reason they dont trust him, and if they played him like a normal QB, we'd be seeing it all over the place. For all we know Getsy is great and has been working his ass off to hide Fields.

lol this team does more for their stats with less actual productivity than any Ive ever seen

lol

true, but I like that they're starting to feel it.

Edwards and Edmunds flying around tonight. Ha and another INT! and JJ set it up. It feels like since Sweat got signed we've been looking a lot better on D, and the players are starting to believe in themselves.

I agree. The whole defensive draft this year is coming along well. And so is Wright. Great draft by Poles this year.