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yes, but in a zone scheme. try to get that TE deep and Edmunds will be all over him. I know a lot of people are assuming Edmunds will be our WLB, but I think his speed, size and wingspan means he will be the urlacher deep MLB in our scheme. That's what he did in Buffalo too. Its just they didnt play as much Cover 2 as we do, so his stats will be even better. Also, Edmunds' stats are misleading. he has HORRIBLE hands, so his INT numbers are low, but he is an amazing cover LB, and often his tips that he cant manage to catch end up being caught by another zone player nearby.

These are the two I had flagged (in addition to Deron Payne and Nate Davis) in my spreadsheet when I first started looking at our offseason a few months ago. Let the price fall, and then grab em.

thats what I think too

Sanborn can play SLB, like a Hunter Hillenmeyer or Kwitakowski? EDIT - oops Mongo you beat me to it.

I'm not sure he's a starting 3T, I think those were mostly passing downs? But he is versatile and a good rotational piece who can play inside and out for sure.

I think you put Edmunds at MLB and he roams the deep middle in pass coverage like Urlacher did, and one of the other two plays the Will spot, where the play is just funneled to you, like Briggs (or Derrick Brooks). You need a sure tackler there. Could be Sanborn, or could be the new guy I havent seen enough film on him yet to guess which.

and he was only a rotational pass rusher, all the more impressive. and will be that for us too, and a placeholder/insurance for a developing rookie.

And hes a place filler at that salary - a decent pro, but not a core player. This is the kind of placekeeper you put in a position before you draft someone for the same position. And on the DL you need a rotation anyway, so he is like Rieff or Schoefield - they play until a rookie can displace them, and they are depth and rotation players, but if your rookie struggles, they can legitimately start, but wont likely be a star.

That's exactly who he can be for us. He's oversized and rangey, hes a lot to throw over in the deep middle, and we are building a cover 2 D. Check out his spider chart: Big and Fast, that rare combination. https://www.mockdraftable.com/player/tremaine-edmunds Height 6' 4 1/2" 96 percentile (Url 6' 4") Weight 253 91 percentile (Url 258) Wingspan 83" 98 percentile Arm Length 34 1/2" 97 percentile (Url 33") 40 time 4.54 88 percentile (Url 4.59) I dont think they used Edmunds like that in Buffalo. He might end up being a lot more productive here than he was there.

Ha! You made me snort! Good draft. We still need more on the DL, but Free Agency is just getting started. I think your draft shows that serious starters can be had on the lines with 2nd and 3rd round picks this year. We are in good shape.

They apparently offered Roquan $17M / yr to stay and he wanted $20+M. This is $18M/yr across 4 years. With TJ and Sanborn, this makes LBs a strength. Im not sure that the order positions get filled is commensurate with the need or value of the positions. It could be that we have several DL rated evenly, and we are waiting for the first one (or several ) to go so the price comes down. Sort of the Free Agency version of trading down in the draft. I am sure they haven't taken their eyes off of the DL, and I look forward to see who we sign there. This team is taking shape!

I wouldnt be surprised. He is such a wild card - he shows flashes of being a mean SOB, but hes injured so much and was kind of a head case in camp last year. I wouldnt be surprised to see him as a starter at OG, RT or a backup. Anything is possible with this guy, which does not inspire confidence. I'm loving what weve done so far in free agency. I wanna see something great on the DL. Maybe we are waiting for prices to come down a bit if the ones who are avilalbe are asking too much, or we have several tied on our boards, so we're waiting for the last one at the best price?

I was yelling for him over Roquan at the time! Awesome

if thats so, there is some new trick being used. and Im open to the idea that is true. But in general, the guaranteed money stays with the team that signed that deal, and the salary moves to the new team. I do see Rogers has some $30 Million/year options, but I dont know who has the option, or how that affects the cap numbers. But in every other deal Ive ever seen, when you trade a player, the team letting the player go has to pay all the guaranteed money that was being amortized along the life of the deal, suddenly and at once in the year he is traded (or across two years if a Post June 1st move, which this obviously isnt. Interested to read the descriptions of what actually happened, and how it affects other contracts and trades in the future.

There may be something in Rodgers' contract that I dont understand, but when i look at the salary cap tracking sites, they all show $99 Million of dead cap if they cut or trade Rodgers. Maybe they are gonna "pull a Bears" this year and suck for the extra draft capital and to end the Rodgers headache once and for all, but it's gonna be hard to put a team on the field with $99 Million in dead cap money. If anyone knows some fancy option/bonus structure to his deal that makes that not so, Im all ears. But if this is true, the era of Green Bay being awesome because they have a HOF QB is over. It's been a long few decades. GB fans wont know how to deal with it, and we can recapture the all time series lead. Lets go!

for sure!

ah cool, so did I then

(Jonathan Allen, DT Washington) Are you predicting that he'll get cut, or will we have to trade for him?

looks like our DT is gonna come from the draft. Any competent GM will make sure they have SOMEONE at every position before entering the draft. That means signing some impact players, but also signing or resigning guys who will become 2nd stringers or trade bait when the rookies we draft are ready to replace them. Kinda like Reiff and Schofield this year. So not every signing will be a "this is a core player" even if we spend money. You want to be able to get as close as possible to BPA in the draft. So we could sign a DT for $15 Million, and still draft Jalen Carter if he falls to us for example. I doubt we'd feel comfortable getting to April without some kind of viable answer at DT, no matter who we take in the draft later.

Ah too bad, I was drinking Kool Aid that we were gonna trade down to #16 from #9 with WAS for him.

good stuff, thanks for this.

Yeah, I dont think it's illegal to announce intention to sign, and talk about it openly - it IS the tampering period, after all. But if a better offer comes in on Tuesday, the player is free to change their mind until it's actually signed, and that cant happen until Wednesday. I think it will be a pretty chaotic but transparent process. And if we do come to an agreement in principle with someone, I wouldn't be surprised if we heard about it. Think of it from an agent's point of view. They know they have the deal, and they themselves can trust themselves not to change their mind, so why not get the press coverage for your client? I dont think agents do too well shaking hands on deals and then going back on them, a few of those, and word gets around, and youre done, no one trusts you. So yeah, transparent-ish. I cant wait to see who our new OL and Defensive front are. It's weird to have a hollowed out roster with so much cap money and draft capital just waiting for the start of the race.

Amen! +1

Yes!!! this is the Fields-plays-well-this-season outcome, and it's not a fantasy, it could easily become reality. Also, I read somewhere (cant remember where, maybe it was on this board!) that we might trade #9 to Washington for #16 and Daron Payne. If that happens, Ryan Poles is GM of the decade. For those who said you should never try to lose games, hopefully now we can see the incredible value that ending up #1 instead of #4 or #5 brought. Poles is playing this for long term benefit too. Sustainable. Not a word we've come to associate with the Bears ever, and now, we are here. Awesome.

Seriously Barney from the Simpsons seems more trustworthy.