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So Vrabel is going to the Patriots. I gotta say i really liked the idea of him as Head Coach. I'm sad to see him off the list. I predict the Patriots will do well under his leadership. Wish it was us.

thank you - hes just a name to me, I dont know anything about him.

agree on both counts a ham sandwich would be better LOL I dont think Tua is soft - I just think if your head coach is telling you you dont even belong in the NFL, that's borderline abusive, and doesnt build a player up. Accountability is necessary but "bullying" isn't. You can be really tough with a player, Im no participation trophy guy. I want Vrabel. I wanted Harbasugh. but i think Flores crossed that line. Also he is suing the league for racism. Thats a huge red flag for me. Does anyone really think the NFL is racist? And if you dont, Then what kind of a-hole does this? Flores is too much drama for me. Tough is one thing, but if Harbaugh was too much, then Flores is double too much. At least Harbaugh wins everywhere.

he'd make a good OC / asst head coach for Carroll to groom if we go that way?

this is what i expect too. i think when you watch the game on TV, you see Caleb holding the ball, or not throwing to an open man, and later you see that there was no throwing lane, or he was looking elsewhere with hie progression etc. The all 22 really tells the story. But yeah, mostly, the OL was just awful this year - that was easy to see on TV. And for sure there are times Caleb needs to be better too. But i think overall, he did well for his rookie year, and if we give him an Ol and an offensive scheme, i think he will be great.

I agree, but Id take Flores off of the list for how he treated Tua - if he ever spoke to Caleb that way I'd fire him on the spot. Suing the league for discrimination is a close second too. What a jerk.

yeah, I think a lot of these interviews are for possible coordinators too. i cant see us seriously considering Rivera for the HC, but maybe they are being kind and giving him some cred.

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Also, we have something we havent had before - Caleb Williams. A lot of coaches are going to want to work with him.

one more quality pass rusher will make a big difference, and getting Billings back will too. Mostly we need to revamp the OL.

There are bright spots on this roster for sure. He's definitely one of them. I dont think they love or hate us, they just respond to winning. When we are winning, we will get too much coverage. It's just how it goes!

I dont think they are seriously considering everyone they are interviewing for Head Coach. Some are for coordinators, some are for intel, some are favors etc. If they're really seriously considering 10+ candidates, then yes we have trouble, but if they're doing what I'm talking about then it's smart.

Well it's certainly a classic style of defense, and one that worked very well for the 2000 Ravens. And just because something is out of style doesn't mean it can't work. I suspect we will stay with a defense that has a 3T, but there is nothing wrong with what you're saying either.

I agree, and I hope they are smart enough to know that their process comes second to snagging the guy they want if they have already identified him. I sure hope we dont lose out based on corporate stubbornness. Warren is not the most important guy. Im not sure they know that given the Harbaugh thing, but Im hoping that was. just a one off.

https://www.sportsmockery.com/chicago-bears/gervon-dexter-had-something-to-say-about-the-jalen-carter-debate/

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I think we are so used to the Bears screwing things up that we instinctively don't trust their process. And that is totally understandable. But I do think that doing these extra interviews has all kinds of secondary benefits other than choosing the head coach. You get intel on other teams, you get relationships for the future, you may be looking at some guys who dont get head coaching jobs as possible candidates for coordinator, you make friends, you help friends look better for getting interviews (Kafka) and that pays dividends later when favors are returned etc. etc. I do agree that there should be no more than maybe 5 names that are in real contention for the head coaching job. But there are still good reasons to talk to other candidates. In the end, we just need to pick the right guy - that will be the answer as to whether we did this right or not. The number of interviews is not really a problem. Hopefully the Bears have a clear plan on what they're doing, and who they are confirming through interviews, and don't gather too much info and start over thinking. But even if they do - even if their process is flawed and they over think, if they pick the right guy for the wrong reason that's still OK. At the end of the day, any hire is a risk, and all (most?) of the names theyre looking at could be good, so hopefully we get lucky if we dont come from a position of intelligence, and however this goes, if they pick Johnson or Vrabel, or a few other names, we could well be getting an excellent coach, and as there is risk involved, if they pick the guy we personally want (whoever that is for each of us) they could flop too. So Im not too worried about the process, I just hope the guy we pick turns out to be the right guy and we have success. And in truth, that's probably going to hinge more on how we rebuild the OL and pass rush than anything else.

and if you have a dominant OL, any OC can use play action of course.

OK, but a 2 gap scheme doesnt get as much fast pressure on the QB, and in the modern passing league, it's out of style for that reason. Now you can certainly have one monster playing NT, like Billings did. That's a very good thing to have, and clogs up the middle. But teams play a 3T on the other side of the interior who is a one gapper penetrating type player more these days. And in a 3-4 front, there is always a monster NT, and then the other guy is a DE even, so not a second NT.

Good analysis. I just hope the Bears dont overthink themselves into a corner.

I would like to hear that they have interviewed two black candidates early too, so the Rooney rule would be satisfied and they could jump on anyone if the time was right. And that said, i think Aaron Glenn will make an excellent head coach for someone.

I think this is all correct. I dont really see a problem with the process so far. Some of the interviews are fact finding, some are favors, like Kafka, who isnt getting hired, but it increases his perceived value by getting the interview. Doing favors and playing that social game can help us down the road too, so i dont begrudge it - especially since it's slow right now, and you cant meet a lot of the leading candidates face to face until the 20th. I mean, yes, if you want Vrabel, then just grab him before someone else does - but if they want to go through the process, or do due diligence on johnson for example, then this is all OK. All that really matters is getting the right guy at the end.

We were playing a 2 gap front with those two, and now we play a one gap style, and a hybrid style, where the NT may be a 2 gapper, but the 3T isnt. That 2 gap style that leaves the LBers free to roam was popular n the early 2000s, and the Ravens were the best at it. i think modern offensive fronts, zone blocking schemes and fast release style offenses have made the 2 gap front archaic right now. of course everything comes back in fashion at some point, but i dunno if now is the right time for a 2 gap front?

Even great coordinators, if they come up with a new scheme, eventually get defeated by other coordinators. Even McVey had the NFL on the run for like 12 weeks until Fangio showed the league how to beat him with cover 2. Of course McVey remains a great coach, and adapts as well, but he's never dominated again like he did that year. It mostly comes down to the players, and the culture of the team. Sure if you have inept coordinators it can kill you, but it's really about the QB, the roster and the culture. Would Ben Johnson dominate without his incredible offensive line? Would another coordinator look great with the Lions' OL? This post brought to you by Mike Vrabel for head coach And yes, he would need a good OC to develop Caleb too. I'll bet there are a lot of good offensive coaches who would love to work with Caleb...

lol Scottie! On the flip side, Belichick was famous for laying into brady in front of everyone, and that does have a great effect on your team, as long as your QB has thick skin. it wouldnt work with Kyler Murray for example. But I like what ive seen of Caleb taking responsibility, and covering for the OL even. Hes a real leader.