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100% Yes Poles is stacking wins now. Love all of this.

and Wright is still young and learning. he's gonna be a nightmare in a couple years. lets go.

I'm thrilled with Wright - that was my OL all along. Think how nasty we are gonna be running the ball. Wow. Looks like the Bears might have wanted PJJ more, but at worst they had Wright 2nd. I'm so glad they didn't want a finesse style guy. The HITS identity is real for these guys, and not just a slogan - this bodes very well for the future. Poles is starting to stack up good moves. Now we gotta move up for DL.

Former Bears QB Eric Kramer joined the TTNL crew for a mock draft last night. They traded down in the first round, and then traded back up in the 2nd round. I think this would be an amazing draft.

RBs and Strong Safeties are 5' 11" and 220 pounds. If you assume that athletic ability is equally randomly distributed to all size of people, and you know that there are many more people who are 5' 11" and 220 than 6' 6" and 320 pounds, then you see that there are many more potential RBs in the world than OTs. Also, a RBs success depends so much on the OL. A lesser RB has more yards behind a good OL than a good RB does behind a poor one. And finally, RBs take so many hits, they dont usually play so long. Most arent homerun hitters. RBs are important, but you can see why the NFL devalues the position. That said, every now and again a player comes along at any position who can take over a game. Ed Reed, Gronk, even Deion Sanders can take over a game from a position that isnt usually where that influence comes from. Having Jim Brown, Walter Payton or Barry Sanders is always going to be a winning move, but shy of a superstar like that, while it is extremely important to have a good RB, you can see why the NFL would rather have another younger one cheaper than pay that position in salary and draft capital.

especially when it's a player like Anderson. Or a QB.

for the same reason adding our 3rd rounder for Anderson is a no brainer, refusing the trade is a no brainer for Seattle LOL Anderson is a stud, and if we could get him, we should, and I'm sure Seattle feels the same way! So yes, you're 100% right, but damn I'd like to see him in a Bears uniform. If it took more to get him but we could still swing it, Id be all ears.

according to the Hill draft value chart, it would be a perfect fit to give our 3rd round pick to move from 9 to 5. If that's all it takes to get Anderson, I'm all in. I'm not saying this is realistic, but Id do it in a heartbeat if it was on the table. But it wont be because Seattle wouldnt give him up.

If Will Anderson slides to 5, wanna move up to get him? I know it puts other things on hold, but damn it would pay off for many years.

AZ54, I agree with your analysis as far as draft value is concerned. There are multiple OTs, each of similar value. But each has a different personality, and I have personally fallen in draft love with Wright. I love the violence, and i want that on our OL, so for me I dont view them equally, but youre right they are considered to be ranked similarly. I just really want us to be feared in the run game if we go OT in the first.

So an ESPN analyst has this no-trade mock for the Bears. It's awesome, but I dont see all these guys being available where they are picked. Especially Dewand Jones lasting until 61. He'd be a great pick for us. 9 Lukas Van Ness DE 53 Keanu Benton DT 61 Dewand Jones OT 64 Luke Wypler OC and more https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/bears/espn-draft-analyst-has-bears-taking-sleeper-defensive-lineman

I agree about McGlinchey, I just think the secret is out on Wright, and he wont last that long. i think the reason no one is talking so much about him is they all want to snag him. I think the new noise that the Bears are all in on PJJ is smoke. I do trust Poles to play this poker game though, and that's more than i can say for any Bears GM since the 80s. I cant wait. It's like Christmas eve.

I agree, as long as the trade down isnt too cute and we miss out on a blue chipper. I would be happy if they took Wright at 9. Id be thrilled if they traded down and still got him - that would mean they were better poker players than iw ould be at that moment. But if they trade down and we dont get the right player, then it doesnt matter how many 3rd rounders you got out of it I think. Now, if they trade down for a guy like Kancey (and they believe he is the real deal, while I can only HOPE he is) then OK too. But I would think we might either trade down just a couple spots, rather than getting massive capital, and take Wright, or even just take him at #9. I've come a long way on this. I still think we need a 3T desperately, but i cant wave a magic wand and make Carter into someone i dont think he is, or Kancey someone he might not be. And I think Wright is a stud with the kind of attitude we need.

yeah, it's really smart detail oriented coaching.

I don't think Wright will slide anymore. The secret is out on him. I personally don't think hes there at, say, 15.

oh thats an interesting tidbit. good coaching!

LOL so true

I saw it too - I thought he tried, but hearing how carefully he chose his words, I think Carter is not on our board. Youre right, he wants someone to trade up for him if he's there. And everyone always says they are going BPA, and they do try, but position does come into it. For example, if Bryce Young falls, we are not taking him But there are enough needs that we could be flexible depending on who falls at OT, DT, DE, CB, WR, RB with possible surprises as well. I mean in the first and second round too.

I think it depends on the question. If the question is "what is the approach that might end in Carter being a consistently good player" then yes, Eberflus is the best way. But if the question is "what kind of player best fits Eberflus' way and has the best chance to succeed?" I dont think its Carter. So from Carter's point of view, it could be good, but from the Bears' point of view, less so?

I cant speak to Punter per se, but just because we have a young player at a position from last year doesnt mean we wouldnt draft another rookie at the same position if we thought they were gonna be better, and this is especially true for picks after the 2nd round. I think we were in such dire condition last year, that we were plugging holes, and some of those guys could be replaced, even if they played well. Anything is possible this year.

I think it's worth asking whether Carter will take to Eberflus' mode of coaching - all the extra conditioning and HITS principles. I suspect Carter wouldnt fit well with that approach, even if he is one of the top talents in the draft. And you know me - I really want a dominant 3T! If Carter didnt have the love of the game questions, and didnt take plays off, I'd be yelling for him over any of the OTs. But I think Carter is not matched well with Eberflus, so I'm hoping we land Darnell Wright instead.

it would be the best Bears OL since the 85 Bears I do see us signing vet DL after the draft for sure, but I dunno if it will be problem solved. but its probably the way to go. 2024 is the real target, and solving problems for the long term is better than trying to field the best possible team this year with 75%ers

Its hard to say. We could trade down and get a better 3T and a lesser OT, but it sure wouldn't be Wright's level. I would love to see this OL, but we are gonna be complaining all year about the lack of pass rush. But maybe that's what's got to happen to get to where we are headed in 2024

I want everything now, but yes.

Also, in looking at tape today, I sure wouldnt mind Cody Mauch at Center. Think what this line would look like: Jones - Jenkins - Mauch - Davis - Wright Scary. If we can get Wright, Mauch and a legit starting 3T out of this draft, that would be a homerun. And there'd still be room to add a pass rusher, CB, RB, or whatever else you like to that too.