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Yeah, he is another Urlacher. It's gonna be amazing! Now we need a pash rush. This is gonna be a good team!

or 1 year $18 M, and that would give Fields a year to show his stuff, and a year more to develop young players like Leatherwood and whoever we draft lower.

Thats too bad, I always liked Monty's tough running style. But I had to admit over time Herbert was getting more yards against the same defenses.

ah that's too bad. We need about 4 more 1st or 2nd round picks LOL

For sure, when you have two great athletes next to each other you can always play games, and add that level of complexity to stress the opponent. Our coverage team looks amazing now. Now we need pressure from the front 4. I am trying to be patient. It's coming.

He doesnt show up in stats as much as youd like because he has no hands. He never catches the ball, but he is always in position, and knocks them away instead. Also, with that speed, he can spy enemy QBs when he needs to. A big fast coverage and tackling machine. Very little "ball production" a true defender, and I LOVE him for us.

yeah but thats as a pass rusher on 3rd downs and passing situations. he in not a 3 down 3T, hes not a run stuffer, he doesnt demand double teams etc. I dont think he is a proper DT at all, just a DE that moves inside on passing downs.

They keep Whitehair as a swing player until they replace him with a Free Agent or Draft Pick. I think it is extremely unlikely that Whitehair is on the team in September. hes just too expensive and there is significant cap savings to be had by cutting him. One player im still wondering about is Leatherwood. You cant count on him at this point, but he has got to be in the mix in terms of development. If the light comes on for him, he could be very good indeed.

yes, but in a zone scheme. try to get that TE deep and Edmunds will be all over him. I know a lot of people are assuming Edmunds will be our WLB, but I think his speed, size and wingspan means he will be the urlacher deep MLB in our scheme. That's what he did in Buffalo too. Its just they didnt play as much Cover 2 as we do, so his stats will be even better. Also, Edmunds' stats are misleading. he has HORRIBLE hands, so his INT numbers are low, but he is an amazing cover LB, and often his tips that he cant manage to catch end up being caught by another zone player nearby.

These are the two I had flagged (in addition to Deron Payne and Nate Davis) in my spreadsheet when I first started looking at our offseason a few months ago. Let the price fall, and then grab em.

thats what I think too

Sanborn can play SLB, like a Hunter Hillenmeyer or Kwitakowski? EDIT - oops Mongo you beat me to it.

I'm not sure he's a starting 3T, I think those were mostly passing downs? But he is versatile and a good rotational piece who can play inside and out for sure.

I think you put Edmunds at MLB and he roams the deep middle in pass coverage like Urlacher did, and one of the other two plays the Will spot, where the play is just funneled to you, like Briggs (or Derrick Brooks). You need a sure tackler there. Could be Sanborn, or could be the new guy I havent seen enough film on him yet to guess which.

and he was only a rotational pass rusher, all the more impressive. and will be that for us too, and a placeholder/insurance for a developing rookie.

And hes a place filler at that salary - a decent pro, but not a core player. This is the kind of placekeeper you put in a position before you draft someone for the same position. And on the DL you need a rotation anyway, so he is like Rieff or Schoefield - they play until a rookie can displace them, and they are depth and rotation players, but if your rookie struggles, they can legitimately start, but wont likely be a star.

That's exactly who he can be for us. He's oversized and rangey, hes a lot to throw over in the deep middle, and we are building a cover 2 D. Check out his spider chart: Big and Fast, that rare combination. https://www.mockdraftable.com/player/tremaine-edmunds Height 6' 4 1/2" 96 percentile (Url 6' 4") Weight 253 91 percentile (Url 258) Wingspan 83" 98 percentile Arm Length 34 1/2" 97 percentile (Url 33") 40 time 4.54 88 percentile (Url 4.59) I dont think they used Edmunds like that in Buffalo. He might end up being a lot more productive here than he was there.

Ha! You made me snort! Good draft. We still need more on the DL, but Free Agency is just getting started. I think your draft shows that serious starters can be had on the lines with 2nd and 3rd round picks this year. We are in good shape.

They apparently offered Roquan $17M / yr to stay and he wanted $20+M. This is $18M/yr across 4 years. With TJ and Sanborn, this makes LBs a strength. Im not sure that the order positions get filled is commensurate with the need or value of the positions. It could be that we have several DL rated evenly, and we are waiting for the first one (or several ) to go so the price comes down. Sort of the Free Agency version of trading down in the draft. I am sure they haven't taken their eyes off of the DL, and I look forward to see who we sign there. This team is taking shape!

I wouldnt be surprised. He is such a wild card - he shows flashes of being a mean SOB, but hes injured so much and was kind of a head case in camp last year. I wouldnt be surprised to see him as a starter at OG, RT or a backup. Anything is possible with this guy, which does not inspire confidence. I'm loving what weve done so far in free agency. I wanna see something great on the DL. Maybe we are waiting for prices to come down a bit if the ones who are avilalbe are asking too much, or we have several tied on our boards, so we're waiting for the last one at the best price?

I was yelling for him over Roquan at the time! Awesome

if thats so, there is some new trick being used. and Im open to the idea that is true. But in general, the guaranteed money stays with the team that signed that deal, and the salary moves to the new team. I do see Rogers has some $30 Million/year options, but I dont know who has the option, or how that affects the cap numbers. But in every other deal Ive ever seen, when you trade a player, the team letting the player go has to pay all the guaranteed money that was being amortized along the life of the deal, suddenly and at once in the year he is traded (or across two years if a Post June 1st move, which this obviously isnt. Interested to read the descriptions of what actually happened, and how it affects other contracts and trades in the future.

There may be something in Rodgers' contract that I dont understand, but when i look at the salary cap tracking sites, they all show $99 Million of dead cap if they cut or trade Rodgers. Maybe they are gonna "pull a Bears" this year and suck for the extra draft capital and to end the Rodgers headache once and for all, but it's gonna be hard to put a team on the field with $99 Million in dead cap money. If anyone knows some fancy option/bonus structure to his deal that makes that not so, Im all ears. But if this is true, the era of Green Bay being awesome because they have a HOF QB is over. It's been a long few decades. GB fans wont know how to deal with it, and we can recapture the all time series lead. Lets go!

for sure!

ah cool, so did I then