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I agree with most of this. For sure there are many different ways to play football, and when you take up the style that isn't the most popular, you have more draft and Free Agent choices at cheaper salaries in general. The Patriots are geniuses at this. One year they have randy moss and throw all the time, the next year they play defense and run the ball. Theyve won Super Bowls both ways. So youre definitely on to something. The cover 2 bend but dont break style of defense that we employ absolutely pairs with an offense that eats clock and can run the ball. Of course if the offense is putting up 40 points a game, it doesnt matter how they do it as far as complementing the defense, but this staff is clearly committed to the run, at least as long as Fields is still learning. Our taste for larger, physical WRs is definitely part of this, and we lead the league in rushing for a reason. So you're definitely right, Mongo. However, I dont think you can survive in this league without being able to throw the ball too, so the OL does need to pass protect as well. So you cant go all the way to zone run blocking OL and not have them able to protect as well. But besides that point, I think in general youre absolutely right. And running a wide zone system means OL that can move, so they are pretty much doing exactly what youre saying, and when we get some better athletes to do it, it'll look even better. Also, that 90s Dallas line sure did open holes, but they kept Aikman clean too!

I havent seen enough yet to know if I think Eislen should be starting, but Id love to see him kick ass and make that obvious.

Ha! Seeing it all there together in such a compact list, it seems all too easy. Go Poles!

When we come out in 3 and 4 WR sets, if the defense goes nickel or dime, we can run like a double TE set (or more) because these guys can surely block DBs. Come out in base, and we will throw deep. I like where this is heading.

I agree. WWBBD (what would Bill Belichick do?)

it wasnt that though. it wasnt Roquan for Claypool for only this year. Or even Roquan the player for Claypool the player. It was "the rest of this year only with Roquan and then you get nothing" for Claypool for a couple years and a possible longer term deal if he works out, a 5th rounder and a depth linebacker / special teams player.

Imagine, the offense is starting to gel, but the defense loses games for us. top two goals for this season: develop Justin Fields get a high draft choice mission accomplished

zactly

Mongo - here's more. I just found this video that argues well the same thing. ^5

good point, and even if they dont call him a TE, they can use him that way in some formations. All in all, he runs a 4.4 and has good hands, so he is definitely a WR. I also want to add that the guy only costs like a Million dollars against our cap the next two years. We dont need to extend him this year, we can wait until after 2023 for that - so hes a cheap and good piece to see how he fits with Fields.

well, they certainly are trying to put pieces around Justin Fields.

This article really nails it, I think. And they don't mention the game week he didn't show up for still undisclosed reasons. Or his rookie holdout. But most damning are these lines : "Truth be told, he is closer to Briggs than Urlacher at this stage of his career — more of a highly potent tackle machine than a destructive game-changing Hall of Fame[r]." and "Smith had every reason to think he should be the highest-paid inside linebacker in football —he’s accomplished and still young. And Poles has a case for not splurging on an off-the-ball linebacker who — even if he is the best inside linebacker in football — is not a dominant, destructive, $20 million-a-year force." $20 Million a year players are game changers. Whatever Roquan is, and it's a lot, it isn't that. And in the end, that's what matters at that price, or you've overpaid. https://chicago.suntimes.com/sports/2022/10/31/23433861/bears-never-fell-in-love-with-roquan-smith

We have so many holes to fill. Even next year, with a huge infusion of talent, we are still going to have to roll with 5 or 6 of these guys. We need to identify which ones those are, and that means giving younger guys more reps. That's the hidden gem in losing the two best players on this years defensive team. You gotta give Poles credit for having balls. He's tripled down on his ability to win the offseason. If he does it, we will be on the way to being a team that's competitive every year. And we really deserve that. If they can get a 2nd for Ejax, I'd take it. Montgomery is a tougher call because I am a huge fan of his, so Im biased. I just try to imagine wearing a wristband that says WWBBD (what would Bill Belichick do?). lol

interesting. I was thinking they might like what they have with EJax, but he is still not the player he was, and if you can get a 2nd rounder for him, do it. At that point next years cap would be insane. The problem then would be that there simply wont be enough blue chip free agents in one year to be worth all that money. And you dont want to make long term deals with players who dont warrant their cap number. Poles is being bold. If he really is a superior talent evaluator, then we are going to be a much different team than weve been in decades. If not, this could be a tough ride. A lot is riding on Poles, you cant say it isnt his team next year.

for sure. you can afford to build around Fields, and if for some reason he dies in the offseason between 2023 and 2024 in a bizarre gardening accident, youre still in perfect shape to draft a new QB and have a team with depth.

I am very happy with this. Id hoped for a first rounder, and we might have gotten that for Quinn and Smith before the season started, but I know they wanted to see what they had in these players. We saw. Good move. I love David Montgomery, but he has to be wondering if he is next right now. He has to wait 26 hours to find out.

100% right

I think in part this is a test of Roquan's leadership skills - can he lead in Quinn's absence? $20 Mil has to buy more than just a player on defense, but it has to buy a leader too. Roquan has been a head case. I think it's hard to say what his cap worth really is exactly.

Exactly right. They arent a disaster, they just dont have enough talent. But they stood tall against a far superior team, and put 29 points up.

This is the old Tampa - Tony Dungy style - the tree Eberflus comes from. You run the ball, throw off of play action, play bend but dont break defense, and go ahead 17-13 in the 4th quarter. And when our offense opens up and puts up 34 points, it'll be hard for any but really good teams to beat. Right now, if we play within ourselves, and let our conditioning help us in the 4th quarter, we can win games. But where we are going is much more dynamic. It looks like we have a bright future ahead, and we should be in most games until then. Play without mistakes, and we will win our share.

yeah that's fair. I just wish we had a wall of pro bowlers protecting him and opening holes for the run game. In fact, Id like pro bowlers at every position LOL Football is SO interesting and frustrating because you are only as good as your weakest link, and you cant have great players at every position. its always about making compromises. that said, our roster should be much better in 2023 and 2024

Im not even sure having Fields carry 10 times a game on scripted QB runs is a good idea. Obviously it's a great idea for the offense, but you might him killed out there. In the long run, we are going to need a MUCH better OL and learn to play regular football better!

this is how I see it too.

it depends on the timetable for the rebuild. you dont want to become pace and pick not-as-great players in order to fill a roster quickly. if there is a superstar that can be the core of your team available, you pick him, and if that means limping along at another position with a free agent until you can draft again next year, thats certainly not wrong either. it all depends how the board falls at the time.

salary goes with the player, and disappears if you cut or void him. in this case, the bears agreed to pay most of his remaining salary this year, but thats it. guaranteed upfront money is spread over the life of the deal unless you cut or trade him, then the team that paid that money has to eat it all that year (or over two years if post june 1st designation) basically, the bears pay Quinn thru this year, take an extra cap hit this year to remove him from their books entirely, and are off the hook for any more money going forward, and receive a 4th rounder in return.