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GOOD Seattle takes Emmanwori now we just need Cleveland not to take Ersery maybe someone will trade up with them for a QB?

Im worried Seattle just traded up. Hope its not for Ersery

Kaleb Johnson and Cam Skatebo are still available, Id be happy with either of them.

Oh for sure. Loveland is a great player and he's going to help us a lot. I think people rightly have some concerns about other positions or players theyt hink should have been taken instead, but none of that changes the player Loveland is. So it's OK to not like the pick, and still like the player. Personally, Im Ok with the pick and I really like the player. But I am still concerned about LT.

I think that would make sense to target HB, but if you use the first one on OT, then there is nothing for the D. and then someone has to wait even more.

none of that matters. The reason people are comparing him to Allen is how he plays the top of his route. Not his 40 time, weight or height. Loveland breaks well, and can get open on those option routes (inside/outside) that Allen was known for. He provides the same FUNCTION. As for giving Johnson some benefit of the doubt on the pick, I totally agree. We all loved what Johnson did in Detroit, and a lot of that was about how he used Sam LaPorta. Now we have a guy who's NFL comp is LaPorta, so we should let it play out before we judge it. It seems a pretty natural pick.

I sure hope Ersery will be available at 39, but I doubt it. I did no work at all on Anthony Belton, so I dunno if he fits the bill or not. I agree one pick here in the 2nd should go to D Line. And if the other is OT, that pushes the HB back to round 3.

no, I like some things about him, and dislike other things. i think you got defensive here, for him, which is weird.

I disagree. We've seen lots of insecure GMs and head coaches on our team haven't we? In fact, for a long time the McCaskeys only wanted to hire beta types. I dont see Poles vehemently disagreeing with anything Johnson says. I'll bet Poles thinks it is his job to serve Johnson, and I LIKE that. But on some teams the GM or owner is the alpha leader. Remember when Jerry Jones got rid of Kimmy Johnson? Let Switzer take that team to the super bowl. Now switzer is no shrinking violet, but he knew when it came to Jerry Jones, he needed to know his place. Who isn't?

Yeah Warren is totally cringey. I agree that we dont know if they would have taken Banks instead if he was available too. Or Jeanty etc. I also agree, adding Ersery and one of the good HBs would make this all a really good draft. I was so used to seeing Loveland in round two of the draft simulators LOL They really are crazy!

I think the thing about Loveland is that he is a lot like Keenan Allen at the stem of his route. he is very clean in and out of breaks for such a big guy, and he gets open with that stuff in a way that Warren and Kmet dont. If you imagine a large Keenen Allen, then you start to see the matchup issues. Also, to my tweet that I highlighted where the guy said they had him #2 overall, you know i have argued over and over that opinions vary and you gotta watch the film. So thats before you choose LOL AFTER the choice is made, then you read every good thing written and try to see if he does the things they say he does! I have no problem with unreasonably positive narratives around a guy after we pick him! Right now hes awesome. Then he has to get on the field, and his tape will start to tell the story. But right now? He's the best! LOL

Jihad to the Eagles - more for Fangio. Wow. And Simmons gores to the Chiefs. I dunno about Ersery falling 6 more slots. Texans need an OT, Cleveland picks twice and they need an OT. Maybe we trade up in the 2nd round? Dont love it but...

For sure. And if you didnt see it on the other thread, here is another high praise tweet - Eric Galko is the director of operations for the East-West Shrine Bowl. And he also founded Optimum Scouting just tweeted this:

for $10M a year, when you can cut or trade him with no cap penalty? He has a role for sure, I just dont see it for that money.

75% of Lovelands catches are for first downs.

WOW. Here's the phone call with Loveland. First off Poles is so shy and insecure and cringey sheesh. But THEN, check out Johnson. His energy is off the charts - better than any of the press conferences or anything. Look how he is rocking back and forth with excitement. Listen to what he says. This is the most authentic example Ive seen of him with players. More candid than the behind the scenes stuff. Reminds me of Jon Gruden - maniacal about winning. Fantastic. Maybe Johnson is gonna show us all something with Loveland. https://www.facebook.com/share/r/187DKZHkHp/

Conerly gone to Washington Ersery isnt gonna fall to us int he 2nd, we will have to make a move if we need him. But Simmons? Hmmm

totally agree. But if you get a top 1st round talent at LT for the next 12 years, maybe a half a season isnt so bad?

he was one of the guys I was always taking in the 2nd round, of course he wasnt gonna last that long. Funy thing is I often had Coleston Loveleand there too. In the 2nd. Draft simulators are funny LOL So now, the 2nd round picks are OT and D Line.

And Now Tyliek Williams to the Lions. He's gonna be tough. Glad we've beefed up the OL.

lol

Starks goes to the Ravens - they have a history of great safeties and they just got another one.

Yeah if Simmons will be back by week 5 or something, that changes everything.

Zabel already went, but those are all good names, but i dont think the bottom of it under Simmons are necessarily better than Amagadje? Theyre good later picks for depth and development, but they arent gonna start right away. I like all those names up top tho.

yeah he's a good player. this is one of the names that kept coming up in as available in my mocks on various sites in the second round, along with Landon Jackson, Malakai Starks and Nic Scourton. Good quality for the 2nd round if hes still there. And please an LT in there too (praying to Halas and Payton)