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maybe Goldman can learn to play OLT lol

I agree. But you can understand why they dont want to. If they knew about his back on draft day, and took a risk with a 2nd rounder to pick a guy who wont be able to play in the NFL, that is not going to help them keep their jobs. At this point, if Nagy puts a good product on the field this year, and he and Fields have rhythm with play calling and execution, it might just be Pace on the chopping block. Im not even sure myself what i think of that, but i can see things going that way if Jenkins never plays.

Ive been watching film on Peters. At one time he was a monstrous beast who owned the league. Now he is a decent, but not spectacular journeyman who will make some plays and whiff on others. He looks like a better version of Leno. So that IS an upgrade while we wait for Jenkins, but he will make frustrating errors and get beat too. All in all you cant say we've lost anything by losing Leno, but we are going to need more (Jenkins) before we can really turn the corner as an offense.

could be camp legs, could be swapping people in and out, whatever it is, special teams coverage was awful. I expect it to get better, so i wont hit the panic button yet, but yeah that is a real problem if it continues like that.

It really did feel that way, and i think youre right, that is a very telling sign.

He will also be a great example for Jenkins to learn from. But in the meanwhile, he's a beast. Age degrades all players, but i think the downward slope is more gradual at OT, they dont rely on speed and he has plenty of strength - it's about how to use it, and that just keeps getting better as you get more experience. Peters is a very good pickup. Had they started with Peters, id have worried about the future, but given Jenkins behind him, suddenly we are in a good position at OLT. And now Borom can get to work trying to establish himself on the right side.

yes, and one stupid fumble aside, even in the beginning his ball placement was good. when a WR has body position like that on a slant, its up to them to catch it, Fields put the ball right where it belonged. Robinson would have caught both of those slants that were incomplete early.

YES.

yes and no. he makes plays, but he got beaten in coverage twice in the 1st quarter. at the least he is good depth, and he can probably contribute more than that, but you can pick on him too. Then again, its usually Smith who runs with the TEs, so Ogletree can compete with Trevathan for what they ask Trevathan to do. But it doesnt solve that problem, it just makes it younger, and maybe a better playmaker, but both he and Trevathan have trouble in coverage.

I love "pinned him to the ground" Mack is a beast. Lets GO.

No doubt. we need Jenkins back ASAP. He is missing valuable snaps. Ifedi has more experience, so it's less critical with him, but they all need to be evaluated, and get some cohesion.

without getting political about anything, some people think getting vaccinated protects your family and others dont? So I dont think we can assume either case?

It sounds like Goldman was exposed or tested positive (and there are LOTS of false positives with these tests) and that he may not be vaccinated, so he has to sit out 10 days. It is smart for the Bears to have a backup plan for Goldman should he test positive again. Someone to plug in for a week or two, and they probably already have that guy on the team in Khyiris Tonga so maybe theyre looking for depth.

I have a guess as to what they're doing there. Everyone is freaking out that Justin Fields looks ready to start, and Nagy is asking the QB people who he knows best and trusts to help him evaluate Fields so he doesnt get too carried away with enthusiasm, or be too slow and careful, and he wants outside opinions to temper his own. And if Dalton was looking good and Fields like a rookie, he wouldn't need it. I am going to guess that the reason these guys are here is because Fields is looking like he might ready or close to it, and Nagy wants to make sure he makes the decision correctly.

yeah,. except it's a grey area, and maybe you both have valid points

I totally agree with you, just not hitting the panic button quite yet. But every rep Jenkins misses IS a lost opportunity...

true, but getting a veteran backup who wasnt good enough to be a starter doesnt give Jenkins more experience or solve the issue either. I think we just have to grow with Jenkins, or pick up a temp vet as we go through camp. There no reason to get one right away, in fact the reps for guys like Borom will eventually pay dividends.

exactly. Mentioning Minshew and Mariota by name "we have options" it's BS. do your dance and then argue whether it's a 4th or a 5th. So dumb.

if they DO need a backup who will start for them, 5 to 6 million is not a bad price at all.

I agree, but since we all know the dynamic, and the Bears really dont have any options, I doubt we will get a 4th. If we do, I'll be very happy to get it.

Id be thrilled with a 4th, a 5th sounds right, but if it was a 6th or nothing, Id take it just to get his salary off the books.

I sure hope so, and of course it's not Quinn's fault if they don't put someone in front of him, it doesn't make him any less. I'm just saying, I look forward to seeing it against competition.

Quinn getting to the QB is nice, but who is he going against? Not Jenkins. So what does it really mean?

I agree. They see Jenkins as the future at that position. Will he make mistakes as a rookie learning the position in the NFL as he goes? Certainly. But Stinger is right, it will be no worse than what we've already had at that position for many years. And there will be plays that are much better too. And in time, he may well grow into a dominant force.

Let's hope we are two of them. Three if necessary.