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LOL this is great.

I was so close to giving up on this team - something I NEVER though could be possible. And now, we have real reasons for hope and I am drawn back in, just like ASHKUM says. Whether it's fair or entirely true, if things turn around, we are just going to say "Trubisky was a huge mistake, and the reason why everything fell apart" and not even going to remember with much emotion who even drafted him. Nagy, for all his faults, inherited Trubisky. With the new QB, who is probably right now the best QB in Bears history, even though he hasn't even made his rookie mistakes yet or thrown a single NFL pass, and some truly nasty picks, including Tevin Jenkins here, we seem to be getting an identity. A BEAR identity. A tough, grind it out blue collar Grubowski like Jenkins is something we have missed for too long. And Fields is something we have never had at all. Bear Down.

I want my team to be winners. If they dont win Im not looking at outside reasons. Im looking inward, to change things until we are winners. I dont want to win the super bowl because the other team fumbled 10 times, I want to beat the crap out of them and impose our will on them. If we cant do that, then we need to keep making changes until we can.

we used to complain that we didnt get enough national games. I think that if your team gets used to playhing big opponents on big stages, it gives you an advantage if you are able to capitalize on it. I dont mind the Bears playing tough teams, and national games, I just want them to ascend tot he level of the challenge. Then, in playoffs, wed have a tougher team

fair enough. youre saying Vick had more quickness. And he was ridiculous there is no doubt. The great thing is, different as they are, Fileds is plenty fast and is going to present real problems for defenses. When you're mobile AND have deep ball accuracy, the defense cant win no matter what they do.

Vick ran a 4.33 at the combine which was considered insane. Is 4.44 really that much slower on the field? 11/100ths of a second over 40 yards?

yeah, youd better be nice to me LOLOL In reality, this move is at least a year late. THe writing has been on the wall for a while, nothing special that I noticed it. A lot of people did.

I think we need another EDGE rusher, and there is still room for upgrades on the OL and at S as well as the CB you mentioned.

maybe they want Foles? And we can throw Miller in too, you know, because they have familiarity LOL

exactly, but even from the list of already available FA, there are some great names. With a couple more holes filled, we could be quite dangerous.

exactly.

yes I said scrambling to ensure their jobs AFTER this bubble theyve created. What Im saying is the window is open, and they are probably inclined to do the most with it in the shortest term they can. Not, say, willing to tank for two years as the QB develops and get high picks around him like a new coach might.

So, now that we see a window of hope opening up, and with Nagy and Pace still scrambling to secure their jobs past whatever bubble they've created from this draft, it might be time to add some quality free agents to put us in the hunt. And there are quite a few good names still available, and since the cap shrunk, they will likely be lowish money short term deals. Especially at EDGE, DB, and OL I just saw this, and a lot of these players could really help. Add two, and we are looking kind of dangerous.

nailed it. 100%

awesome I hope this is what it looks like on the field too!

LOL pretty much

I just hope we have a pass rush again with Goldman back. I need to see Mack get back to form, and someone has to get pressure from the other side. There is reason for optimism, but I want to see it on the field.

you're totally right, and whatever mistakes Jenkins makes won't be more than Leno would have made. So keeping him doesn't really buy you anything I guess. I do admit I was surprised they were this bold. Glad to see it. A little late, but glad to see it. I can say this: this team will be fun to watch. There will be lots of stories and developments to follow. I wonder if the defense is going to wake up with Goldman back, and an offense that should score enough to make the games worth fighting for.

YES YES YES YES YES YES YES I agree Jenkins may not be ready, but perhaps this year is the graduate school he will need, even if it comes at a cost. As Stinger said, this is an ascending player. I gotta say this sure feels like Nagy and Pace feel like they can build and not "win now" I do fault them for seeing this a year (or two) late though. If you watched his tape, rather than just the games, you see he was ALL over the place. Not just getting beat, but consistently blocking the wrong man. That's stuff pee wee players can do. He was a huge part of the overall problem with this team. And yet I am surprised they did it this quickly. If they get a guy like Fisher to come in, that'd be great. But you know what? If they put Jenkins in there day one, and he makes a few mistakes, hell, Leno was making lots them too. I bet Jenkins, rookie mistakes and all, will be an instant upgrade.

It seems to vary by year too. Some years it is as high as 30% https://bleacherreport.com/articles/1641528-where-does-nfl-talent-come-from I guess the point is that even 1st rounders are a gamble, but half the players in the league come from rounds 1 and 2 and the rest are lower, with over half of those undrafted.

yeah its about 30%

As long as they have competition for Leno, Im happy. Leno gets replaced when the new guy is better than he is. THat can happen a few ways, but we dont have to watch him destruct and stay with him.

coverage guy. tough sure tackler who struggles with change of direction and backpedal LOL "run as fast as you can down the field and knock the crap out of the returner"

Moses had an ACL tear, maybe his medical isnt very good?

yes and speedy gadget player.