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well he is cleared in a sense, he already pled no contest and got probation, and 80 hours of community service. In doing this, he cannot be prosecuted for any other crimes related to that day. We also found out today that he didnt leave the scene of the accident until after the police showed up, and they sppoke to him so he wasnt drunk. after they said he was free to go, he left, and then when they asked him to return two hours later he did. my issue has nothing to do with any of that, cuz hes clear to play, and i like my 3Ts nasty. my issue is that he is known to not have a love for the gmae, and his response to this was to get fat and not finish drills rather than to get angry and attack. I FULLY agree that different people respond to stress and depression differently. I dont judge him as a person., I judge him as a destroyer of the man in front him. when things get tough I want a fighter, not a runner.

I love this analysis and thread - it's great to see it all in one place. I still feel we dont have a RT at the level of some of these recent low cash signings on the roster (or better), so I'd add that to the list of holes?

yup. this is our bruiser back. Or a placeholder for one. Monty was great, but this guy is half the price.

right. you can cut them with no cap effect. this is draft insurance.

If Borom is still under contract, then yeah, youre probably right, its him. Id love to see Cody Mauch playing RT for us. Maybe they're gonna try Jenkins at RT again too?

I think Walker only played inside on passing downs. He was a rotational player, so a lot of his highlights came when he was on the field in passing situations, inside. And thats why his film makes him look like a DT, but i dont think he ever played DT on 1st or 2nd and less than 7?

fair enough. i just think our starting RT is coming in the draft. So we can disagree over whether Leatherwood is holding the space open, or if the space is empty, but I think we will get our RT in the draft. You may be right tho, if Poles signs another $4M a year type RT before the draft on a one or two year deal.

It's amazing to see someone who is looking toward a sustainable future and not just hoping to sneak in a short window to a playoff game. We will finally be a real team. Contending some years, building up others, but we will be pretty good even in the building years. This awful boom / bust cycle weve been in for decades is finally over.

We are not disagreeing. Im saying Leatherwood is a placeholder to be replaced by a draft pick. In other words that we dont have to sign another $3M one year contract with someone who is also terrible just so we dont have a hole at RT going into the draft.

This is a classic space filler move. Like Reiff, Schofield etc - no GM wants to go into the draft with any glaring holes. You take a rookie, and they develop until they can replace the placeholder - could be in camp, could be in November. I suspect we have Leatherwood as a placeholder at RT right now, which allowed to avoid desperation early in Free Agency. We will draft D Linemen, and we will draft a 3T, maybe not with 9 but in the first four picks. We will draft a RT too, again somewhere in the first 4 picks. But you can take it to the bank that the 9 pick will go to 3T, DE or OT and that player will be an excellent starter for us. We will sign more lower paid free agents on the DL and perhaps on the OL before the draft too. But if you're looking for that big name stud on the DL or OL for our future, that players is coming in the draft.

I think at this point, they are proving to themselves that they are right to pass on him even at 9 - like giving him a last chance to break that belief. I dont see him on the Bears. He's a Raider lol

Plus, Moore will teach Claypool route running.

its still way early. if the OL (or DL!) looks like this opening day, then youll have a point, but it wont.

interesting. he didnt break the bank and we still didnt want him, and neither did the Chiefs, they gave Jawaan Taylor $20M a year to replace him.

There will be multiple tiers to Free Agency. Poles didnt want to overpay. Hes being disciplined. Give it time, I am SURE they want to put an OL around Fields so he can take the next step. Hell, Poles is a former OL. Come August, we will have players at every position, and start to gel as a team. And yes, we will be missing a couple pieces that we will pick up in 2024. But we're gonna be a winning team this year. And 2024 a true SB contender.

Its gonna be fun to watch him suck on the team that is the best at sucking.

Thats how I read it too - we are gonna use those picks for OL and DL, whether drafting or trading.

I hadnt heard that re: scouts, if thats true (and I totally believe you) then that's a hard pass.

I'm starting to get an Eddie Goldman vibe from Carter. I don't care that he was racing - the best DTs are always trouble. Donald, Suh, Haynesworth, Sapp etc - what bothers me is that he didnt show up in top shape to kick ass in front of everyone and say "oh yeah? you wanna question me? look what i can do" but he didn't. next, maybe in the second round.

me too. I guess players that look like good players for the right salary get resigned by their teams, and others get overpaid in bidding wars. I cant say Im surprised by this, but i was right there with you expecting Daron Payne etc. i blame the sportswriters. lol

that's an excellent point. we could trade a second rounder for a player at any time too.

Yeah, he is another Urlacher. It's gonna be amazing! Now we need a pash rush. This is gonna be a good team!

or 1 year $18 M, and that would give Fields a year to show his stuff, and a year more to develop young players like Leatherwood and whoever we draft lower.

Thats too bad, I always liked Monty's tough running style. But I had to admit over time Herbert was getting more yards against the same defenses.

ah that's too bad. We need about 4 more 1st or 2nd round picks LOL