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yes, the time to fire these guys has long passed. And it can't stop at Pace, it has to include McCaskey/Phillips. He's (they're?) the one that put us into this situation by hiring and then not firing these bozos.

yeah I hear you. Of course i wish it didnt happen this way, and of course if Nagy proves me wrong I would love that too.

OK I just watched film on Dalton, and he is awful LOL really weak arm, he has to put his whole body into throws and the ball moves slow anyway. I still think we will draft a QB this year.

oh it sure is, on that we can ALL agree.

could be.

totally agree. we are not done at QB this year yet.

I dunno. What i saw was Leno taking the same guy as coward while someone else came free. And it wasnt always a result of some tricky blitz or anything, he just didn't count the number of people correctly. The center points out the Mike, so you just need to count. And it's not a subjective question, if you and someone else are double teaming a DT, and a DE (or OLB in a 3-4) rushes, and Leno just ignores him, that's gonna be a problem, even pee wee league kids learn this and perform it routinely. The amount of mental mistakes is incredible, and then you look at his win percentage when he does engage, which makes him about average on pass protection, and bad on run blocking. I can see why PFF rates him higher. They look at who he is blocking, whether they get in or not. And they dont, because its a double team, and they score thats a win, instead of realizing Leno should have been blocking a different guy altogether and didnt even TOUCH that guy. It was especially apparent on running downs. The reason our rushing average was so low is that unblocked players were making tackles at the LOS. How many times did we see Montgomery with no holes at all, being tackled by someone who wasnt blocked? A lot of times it was leno blocking the wrong guy. Now to give him the benefit of the doubt, maybe it was the zone scheme, and leno is supposed to help and then get off to get the second guy, and maybe Coward's weakness was so bad that leno had to help too much, but either way, Leno rarely cleaned his guy in a running play, and often it was his guy that got the tackle or made the sack. I believe he is worse than his grading shows, becasue the grading system doesnt take blowing your assignment into account, and he did that a lot more than anyone else Ive ever seen.

For sure, we are stuck in a rut, and honestly there were no easy fixes available. Dalton is fine, its a one year deal, and it's cheap enough. Foles might even beat him out. Or not. I am glad we didn't trade three firsts for Wilson. And I think the actual price would have been even higher - I saw one article that said it would take FIVE firsts to get him Yikes! But if they trade some future picks to get up to take one of the top five QBs in the draft, that could be OK. Of course id rather it was a NEW GM that made that call and not these guys with their Trubisky track record, but in the abstract, taking one of these 5 is a good thing for the franchise long term - as long as you don't pick a dud. They all look like they'll be good, but history shows... But basically, I dont think we are done yet at QB. Think of this like Glennon.

I know my opinion is unpopular, but I have seen enough tape now. I have seen at least 30 times that he totally picked the wrong guy to block. Its on YouTube to be seen, and once you see it, you wonder why these guys don't.

insanity.

Ok, so take this like all stories this time of year with a grain of salt, but apparently the Bears have inquired about Trent Williams. And even if it's true, it could just be doing due diligence. https://heavy.com/sports/chicago-bears/interest-offensive-lineman-trent-willaims/?fbclid=IwAR1LOSDXHaWrIgYiWf7osnv9F2ZsDq678-GGZ7Y96l2vSTVrla9jKg5SQ5o But I hope and pray that it at least means that they realize that Leno isn't the answer. Whatever solution that may come later, Williams or not, I truly hope they finally see what has been painfully obvious to me for several years now, which is that the guy simply cannot play football at a professional level, and bears at least 25% of the blame personally for our offensive woes. Sure Trubisky cant read a defense, and Nagy's playcalling has been awful, but each would have perhaps made a stronger case for themselves if Leno had done even a mediocre job. Leno gets beat a lot, but the thing that drive me crazy is how often he fails to even identify which person he is supposed to be blocking. I've seen tons of plays where Leno double teamed someone while another rusher came free unblocked. It's one thing to lose a battle, but even pee wee players are able to know who they are supposed to be blocking. Gosh I hope Leno is done in Chicago, but as Stinger proved to my disbelieving face, the powers that be at Halas Hall did not see it the same way. I really hope they finally do. Maybe Russell Wilson is telling them he's not coming unless they upgrade the LT. Finally the consultant the Bears need LOL - or maybe theyre hearing that from multiple sources etc. Gosh I hope they see it.

I totally agree, but I can see Nagy and Pace telling themselves that overpaying for an older QB will bring them a super bowl just like Tom Brady did in Tampa. Of course that would be dead wrong, but i bet they are saying that to eachother. We needed to have fired these bozos, and now we are into silly time that could well hamstring us for the next few years. And THAT is on McCaskey.

I think he is actually the guy he presents himself to be which is super rare.

this seems likely. maybe he will play 2021 under the tag and then go, but your scenario here is at least equally likely, probably more.

Drew is a real class act. I spent several hours with him once, and he is the nicest and most authentic person ever. I wish him luck in whatever he does.

I dont know the rules around it, but one of the salary cap calculators has provisions for pre and post June 1st trades, so there must be some distinction.

agree. I do think he was a player and they could have found a position for him, but if they arent gonna use him, then they shouldnt keep him.

right, and doesnt consider it a need. smh

all good stuff, except at the very end, he lists needs and doesnt say anything about OLT.

wow I didnt realize he had such a low back end. Great news.

yeah Fuller is in the spotlight for sure.

cutting Leno as a post June first cap saves us $9M on the cap...

hahahahaha

Now I dunno if they will trade him, or decline matching offers and take the two first round picks or what, but we tagged him. And if we did get two more first round picks, and we could package two of them to get a rookie QB and use one on an OLT, it might be an improvement for the offense, regardless of how good Robinson is as a WR. https://www.chicagobears.com/news/bears-put-franchise-tag-on-robinson

yeah something like this.