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yeah youre right of course, I dont mean as a full time TE, I mean, can he play TE as a gadget. NE used him at RB last year, so I dunno, I think a lot is possible. I surely think he could be a blocking TE if he is blocking a DB becasue they came out in nickel or dime because THEY thought he would be a WR.

Bunting is up and down. I have this crazy idea that Patterson will play some tight end. Burton isn't the world's most dominant run blocker - Patterson is probably better and scarier than Burton a a receiving TE. I truly think, and this is my own pet theory, that Patterson will play some TE, and defenses will melt. When you sub in Robinson, Miller, Patterson, Montgomery and Cohen, you gotta wonder whether youre about to see power I, 5 wide or anything in between. So no matter who you put in youre gonna be wrong. Go nickel or dime, and Patterson plays TE, blocking a DB instead of a LB, Montgomery is the fullback and Cohen carries. Keep your LBs in and Cohen and Patterson become slot receivers with Montgomery as the single back. It's ridiculously scary. Or imagine Robinson, Miller, Patterson, Burton and Montgomery. Is that 4 wide? Or heavy power running with patterson or montgmoery blocking for the other? Imagine the screen options youd have. Patterson is gonna give them insane flexibility. And the talent they have is crazy, If Trubisky plays well, we will be unstoppable.

Sounds like we will keep 6 WRs on the roster,. which makes sense. I have this weird feeling, I wonder if Patterson can play TE.

that's Long's replacement when Long ages out.

awesome

and since he is a legit receiver too, and cohen is too, and patterson is a wr or rb or te, basically when more than one of them is on the field, you dont know if youre looking at 5 wide or power I running, so whatever you substitute, youre wrong. awesome.

Montgomery with the nasty cuts. Howard didnt have that speed to the hole, and that kind of change of direction. Montgomery is going to be a stud for us. Between Montgomery, Cohen and Patterson, those defensive linemen are going to be sucking wind chasing those guys around.

setting down his plant foot is allowing him to change direction quickly, thats why hes rotating inside. What you dont see because the lens is forshortening the shot is that he isnt just moving left and right, but after the change of direction he is coming back to the ball and thats the separation he is gaining from the defender. This isn't an out, it's a comeback.

agree

that assumes we keep 7 WRs, which is unlikely. I wouldnt be shocked to see us trade a WR as injuries happen in preseason. I mean unless we have injuries ourselves at WR.

I had us taking Piniero with our 7th rounder in 2018 draft. Instead we took... Javon Wims! Now we have both. Go Bears.

maybe not in terms of making the roster, but in terms of touches, the fight to watch is Gabriel vs Patterson. Honestly, Gabriel's roles in the offense are under threat from all sides. From Miller playing a taller #2, to Patterson exceling at the Jet Sweep, even from Ridley in a way. Gabriel will have to hang tough in camp and really raise his game. That WR room is very crowded with talent!

For sure. There is every reason to think he will be faster and better in his reads in this second year in the offense.

It was a good analysis, and you can bet that Nagy and Helfrich are aware of all of it, and that Trubisky is motivated to improve. I wouldnt bet against that. I think the arrow points up. But yes, Trubisky was totally inconsistent last year, but that means he had flashes of greatness too. He was just uneven. And thats a lot better than consistently average.

Plus we had a really sweet job opening a lot of people would have wanted, and this is who Pace chose. Thats good enough for me.

Happy Birthday Lemon! Youre 60, Bears are 100. Awesome.

+1

for sure. Funny he says we don't have a kicker. We kicked HIM out pretty good... Seriously, I was a Fox defender. I said we were VERY lucky to get him to take the locker room from where it was to a place where a real coach would take over. (Thank you Pace!!) But no more. He's dead to me. What an idiot. ANd Im not gonna spend time hating him, he's already in the past. LETS GO BEARS.

LOL Oh Foxy. That's really ugly. See, the Bears are the kind of team that honors their past players and staff, but not when they act like a Parkey about stuff.

hahaha yes for sure. I still love it though.

yeah! some nerdy kick coverage talk! It must be July before camp

Well when you have 6 starting WRs, you make a trade. We are a good team with a deep roster, and we have to start getting used to the idea of trading GOOD players. We havent been here before, Patriot fans live it every year. I see Gabriel's role diminishing sharply this year, and I think he is worth something to someone else. If not this year, then next year. But Miller, Patterson and Ridley are all going to take touches away from Gabriel, and the meat of Gabriel's role, the Jet Sweep, is gonna be all Patterson. Also to the idea that all we have now is young receivers with potential, I think Miller has already shown it, and Patterson has for sure, although hes more of a chess piece than a strict #2 WR. Still, Gabriel isnt the Jet sweep guy anymore, and he might be worth more to another team.

I mean the rookie WR UDFA Emanuel Hall. He's 6' 2" ran a 4.39 40. I'm saying he and Wims battle for the 6th spot IF they keep 6 WRs. Even if Wims supplants Robinson, which I dont really see. They won't cut Robinson mid year, so barring a trade, Wims may be battling Robinson over the next couple of years for his role, but not his roster spot in 2019. I agree that Gabriel is in the hot seat, but his competition is Miller more than Wims. Interestingly though, if Miller ascends, and they release Gabriel, which is a lot more likely than Robinson getting released, then that WOULD cement Wims' roster spot. So Wims is fighting to supplant Robinson on the field, but if he's gonna make the roster, he needs to blow away Hall OR have Miller make Gabriel expendable. Keep in mind that Gabriel's main role was the Jet sweep, which Patterson will now own. The more I look at things, the more I think Gabriel is in trouble. I suppose he was a stop gap measure from Pace, being that Gabriel is so small, to get speed for Nagy until Pace could draft it in a larger package. With Ridley, Miller & Patterson on the roster, I wonder what we could get in trade for Gabriel...

We are now a good team with a deep roster. We are entering new territory for Bears fans, where we trade away and cut GOOD players that other teams will want. If we keep 6 WRs, then Wims will battle Hall for the 6th spot, unless Taylor Gabriel is on the bubble. As weird as this may seem - Im not sure Wims will make the roster this year. If they can hide him on injured reserve that might be the most likely way he is still a Bear in a couple years.

He is SO good, and such a good guy. I really like him, and you can see the guy knows what he's doing. So Hicks and Mack playing right next to each other, with Goldman right next to Hicks on the other side, and Smith standing behind them. And Floyd and Trevathan on the other side. Not bad not bad at all. And having the best safety in the game behind that doesnt suck either. We are going to be good this year.