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Thats good! I'm just saying there are a lot of people out there that just read the regular sportswriters and share those opinions. If they are smart enough not to be sold on Poles, so much the better. But when we swim against the current on narratives, only one person here gets upset. Most in this board (including you) I find are reasonable, hopeful, but reality based. Anyway, I was saying other people must read the same stuff Stinger reads and feel the same as him. I was trying to be generous. If Poles fans are rarer, then he is even more out on a limb - I was just trying to be hospitable?

Yeah and he made that comment the other day. In spring of 2024, he got his new deal, I think he was the top CB paid at that point? If not certainly in the top few. Now he's saying in an interview that a lot of CBs got paid more and it might be time to renegotiate. After one year? I dunno if that has anything to do with it, but i am thinking the bears want to get their other CBs some reps. And while Im not predicting it, and JJ is a good player, i wont be shocked if he gets traded. probably not, but its not impossible. You dont chest up to the new coaches their first year. If you look at how his contract is written, we cant do it this year, but next year and any year after we can trade him and it costs us basically $5M against the cap to do it with $16M of increased cap space - or we can keep him for $21M a year against the cap if hell play for that.

I dont think people are idiots because you post them, I listen to what they say, and they are almost always part of that echo chamber narrative stuff that just around and around. Most sportswriters are idiots, or at least they are more interested in clicks than good analysis. Caleb isnt tough because he cried or paints his nails Fields just needs another chance Ryan Bates will get healthy and be a great center for us Kelvin Banks wont go in the top 20 etc etc That's what these podcasters do - very little actual analysis, and even less with film, just repeating the same stories everyone is saying for clicks. They arent analysts, theyre sportswriters and worse, and theyre almost always wrong. I get better info here on this board than I get from those sources. And when we disagree with them, you tell us that we arent famous like they are so we couldnt know. And then youre surprised when people push back on that? And not just surprised but all riled up and looking for a fight. Thats why I ask if you have a drinking problem. Because you act like someone in a bar looking for a fight, and defending some ridiculous idea that wouldnt even make sense int he morning when they are sober. But i dunno, maybe thats just how you think. I have no idea. But this latest idea - that i get my ideas from TTNL, because i say you gotta watch tape because stats and narratives dont capture the truth of things in context, and their name says "the tape never lies" so I must be a brainwashed accolyte lol Thats a real stretch - the tape IS what matters, and I like TTNL because they usually see things the same way I do - not the other way around. Anyway, like I said, if your point is to unmask me as inauthentic and not someone who thinks for themselves, youre going to fail. Ive always thought for myself, and often I find myself alone with some idea because I saw it too early, and later other people catch up, but before they do, they say Im nuts. So thats not a follower. What i like about this board, is when I see things early, there are others here who see it too. I dont find that on any other discussion boards. Your style is widely shared on most discussion boards. Poles is an amazing GM, etc. There are TONS of people who agree with you - and given the narratives and everything, probably the vast majority of people agree with you. Cool. But I see what I see, and its not because any podcast told me to LOL I do agree I watch most of my Bears film on TTNL because i like the analysis and they do a good job with it - occasionally answering questions I have about blocking assignments and stuff like that. But that's very different than getting my ideas from them, and when i disagree, I dont feel disloyal or anything weird like that?

I agree with this - its really only good during the season for post game analysis and tape analysis and also leading up to the draft for player analysis. The rest is noise I agree. See and this is where youre completely nuts. I dont get my opinions from anywhere by my own mind. You actually spent money to try to prove to the rest of the board here that Im a phony that repeats what he hears on podcasts? Do you hear yourself? Everything you keep trying to pin on me is actually what youre doing. And the fact that you even want to pin something on me is sick. I respond to what you say on here. When you say dumb stuff i call it out. because this is a discussion board, and so i discuss what people say, and your takes are often really really out there. But youre trying to score a win against me. So all the narcissist and ego stuff you say, its you, dude, not me. Youre not going to find some way to prove that Im inauthentic, because im not. Im just a Bears fan who cares about the team, and follows it closely. And like a lot of members here Ive been watching football for a long time, so we kind of know how things go. When trades happen, when they dont, when youre hanging on to a player too long etc. When you say stupid stuff, thats on you. And its a lot. I think you might be happier on a super fan site where people get in a circle and pleasure thdemsevles to how this year we will win the superbowl - again. Here, I generally find smart guys who know what theyre talking about, and we talk about the good and the bad of the team, where we are realistically heading, wht changes should be made - smart Bears talk. The rest of this is some kind of mental illness on your part. Just let it go, and talk about the Bears. Youre not going to unmask me as a fraud because Im not one. Im just a guy who knows something about football, so the more you try, the more you will fail and indict yourself for that nasty stuff.

It never a problem in the abstract, but when you have a salary cap, you might want to allocate dollars to another area, like, say pass rush.

LOL you dont know me, but youre exhibiting the traits of an asshole. Also it seems like you might be drunk a lot? Any comment on that?

OK, so all the GOOD TTNL analysis is behind a paywall. Here's one example of the kind of videos they produce. Here is Phil, and his Dad who was a college coach as a career, who also played OL and was an All American. Skip past the talking and BS to like 15 minutes in, and check out the film analysis - then youll see why it's worth $10 a month to me, and why I learn so much from these guys.

you mean like posting TTNL clips from the draft day when they werent happy with Loveland at the moment he was picked even though they are now? Or maybe posting nonsense as a "rebuttal" to my simply saying there was a logjam in the 2nd round picks? (which there WAS!) Or maybe even posting this post youve just posted here? If you need to win a fight on this board so bad, my advice is to wait until you have a winning hand. Just taking wild swings with no purpose behind them except to win is whats making you lose?

I agree, and good for the players. I just think this should have been dealt with in collective bargaining, not like this - but whatever, we got our guys signed, lets go. Like you said, not worth it to try to win pennies youre probably gonna pay them anyway.

Ok, so now you are saying they didnt holdout because it wasnt camp yet, and every other sports reporter except you didnt understand that camp hadnt started yet. And that one guy in your video is the only one who gets it. The rest of us knew what we were talking about. I promise you. The rest of this is just more flailing - theres no need to address it. Oh, and by the way, I used the word "roadblock" anyway, and you put this video not on its own, but after my comments so it was some kind of rebuttal. Just give it UP already. You were out there on a limb AGAIN. the first step in fixing things is admitting you have a problem.

yes,. I always thought the teams wouldnt lose much to guarantee those 2nd round deals. Still should have happened through collective bargaining, not this way, but so what, we are here and our guys are going to camp. As for the extra money - it was 120% more than years past, only the recent DT signed for 87% guaranteed, and that was new. Players seem to have won this one, 100% or 87% or whatever is a lot better than 40%.

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This is great news - I was concerned that if he didn't it would put him out of alignment with the team this year and could lead to frustrations and problems. Cant wait to see all the rookies in camp and preseason!

According to my TTNL guys, Burden has signed with a fully guaranteed deal.

OK and just as I am typing this... The Bears blinked, and Burden has signed a fully guaranteed deal. Glad to have him in the fold!!

I mostly agree with all of this. You definitely were not overreacting. It was a real problem, and thanks should go to the 49ers and the DT that signed and broke the logjam below the #10 spot. There was real progress here in the players' direction. 87% guaranteed rather than the 40% that was usual before. And good for the players! This still leaves picks 3 thru 9 in limbo though, including Burden. I hope he signs quickly, but Im not sure the SF DT signing will affect the players taken above him? I do hope we get him signed quickly, but Im not sure what will happen. The video Stinger posted as a "rebuttal" to what "I said" (when I was really just repeating every journalist on earth that was talking about this story) was crazy, and as you pointed out Mongo, and I had missed this, the video was a month ago, so not even relevant. But time had already proven that video guy wrong. Im not sure Stinger even understood what that guy in the video was even saying. Anyway, we got Trapilo and Turner signed, and those were the two I was most worried about. I do think Burden has the possibility of being a head case (like so many great WRs) so i wonder 1) if he will find a middle in this, or hold out for fully guaranteed unless or until someone above him signs for less 2) if he will be able to get into the lineup if he misses more time with the time 3) if not getting enough targets will sour him and make him a malcontent Im not predicting anything, these are just my concerns with him.

That is crazy. I said that there was a logjam in the second rounders because the first two had been given fully guaranteed contracts, and now agents were holding out for the same for their clients. Thats been backed up by pretty much everyone. i didnt think it was controversial at all. Then you took my post, reposted it and responded with a video of a guy who said that was all made up and didnt exist, and was just idiots on the internet. He was wrong, you are wrong. You said you were amplifying what Mongo said, but Mongo also knew there was a logjam. I posted a tweet from Ian Rappaport about it. If that doesnt make it true, I dont know what does. The rest of this is just an attempt to cover your stupid and wrong video with some personal nonsense. I dont know why you listened to that moron that no ones ever heard of before, but he was 100% wrong. Last year 2nd round picks were getting 40% guaranteed, now when the logjam broke it was for a deal where the player got 87% guaranteed. I said the players were likely to win this, and it seems they have. 2nd round picks above the 10th taken, where SF signed the DT, are still holding out for guaranteed money, including Burden. Its a real thing - this no name you posted is the only one i ever heard say it wasnt true, well and you. I truly dont get you dude, half the time youre reasonable, and the other half its this absolute nonsense and you dig in and start defending it like a 4th grade argument. EDIT - Is it possible that you didnt understand what the guy in the video you posted said? Were you drinking maybe? Is that what this is all about?

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No it was just stupid. The 2nd rounders absolutely were waiting for the teams to offer them fully guaranteed money, or a player to sign with out it. They were all log jammed. He was just wrong. He seems like some rando who has no idea what hes talking about. I dont know why you posted it, I assume you agreed with it which is why you posted it. And if you agreed that the 2nd round logjam was made up and not real, then that's some really deep level nonsense. Picks 3 thru 9 are still unsigned, including Burton. Anyway, you can see the Ian Rappaport tweet I shared, so if you still think it was made up, I dont know what to tell you. And since you quoted my explanation of the issue above, I assume you also think this somehow rebutted what i was saying. So that's pretty dumb too. What I said was true, and again, its not because Im some amazing NFL insider - the story has pretty much been everywhere. Im kinda baffled why you even did that, but if you think it's not real, then enjoy that. I dont know what to say.

The guy in the video you just posted didnt understand the guaranteed money issue. Thankfully the 49ers DT signed, and that opened up the possibilities for everyone that signed below him. he's pretending that nothing happened, and this is all normal based on the date on the calendar, but he's wrong. There was a logjam, and as far as I know there still is for picks 3 thru 9 in the 2nd round. So it was real. He is 100% wrong, and who the hell is he anyway? Let's also see what % of these contracts are guaranteed vs last year. You watch a lot of nonsense dude.

Turner and Trapilo were both taken after the 49ers DT, so that signing broke the logjam. Burden was taken above that, so he may still be stuck in limbo. I hope Burden ends up being a stud for us, he certainly has the tools, but he also has some head stuff (like all good WRs?) so i dunno if we can count on him being signed by camp. But, he's also nursing an injury, so maybe the signing date is less impactful. It is really important to get Trapilo in there if hes going to make a case for starting. And Turner needs to be in there too. So good news today!

OK, first one to sign since the roadblock happened today. DT Alfred Collins, who was taken 43rd (2nd round pick #10) signed a four year $10.3M deal with $9M of it guaranteed. I think the players are going to mostly win this one. 9/10.3 is 87% guaranteed. And its not THAT much cap money. Bears shouldnt get cute here. let 2 or 3 more sign, get a sense of whats going on and then match it. https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/49ers-break-the-seal-on-second-round-signees-as-alfred-collins-contract-may-pave-way-for-others-to-sign/

i with you. of the 30 unsigned 3rd rounders, 3 of them are ours, or 10%. What a massive pain in the ass.

Oh man Im sorry then! I really thought you thought that!

yes! football needs this or it's a joke. 100% I want teams to think "oh crap we have the Bears this week, that's gonna be a physical game" Accountability, aggression, desire and an expectation of greatness have been lacking for decades, and this staff looks very different.