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FWIW, Im the guy that added the word "inconsistent" to this thread, and I saw him play some VERY impressive games, and then he had some poor ones too. That's to be expected with a young QB, his first year in the offense. I dont think he is doomed to be inconsistent, I am very optimistic about his future. Last year, he looked young. But when the light was on, he looked top 5. I expect more consistency this year, and Im a big fan.

totally agree. I think he will do very well this year. I think sooner or later he will be a top 5 QB.

amen. Stats aside, you ask yourself, if it was just for one year, this coming season, would you rather have Trubisky or X? And I dont think there are 14 QBs in the league Id pick before Trubisky for just 2020. He might not be top 10, but he's probably hanging around that threshold. And if you widen it out to mean the next few years, Ill take Trubisky. Sure if a young Brady was available for the same price yada yada, but he isnt, and Trubisky is no slouch. He wasnt bad last year either, he was inconsistent. ANd that will change as he grows. He definitely showed times where he was a top 5 QB.

And let's not forget that we got Oaklands 2020 second rounder in return for our 2020 first rounder. If we do well this year, and our first rounder is low, and the Raiders suck, and their 2rd rounder is high, that pick might only be a trade down of a few spots, which is almost nothing. So really we got Mack for a first, a third, a sixth, and a trade down of a few spots on our first rounder in 2020. Not too shabby at all. And not two firsts by any means.

Wouldnt it be great if Floyd breaks out and becomes a dominant pass rusher this season? That'd be huge with Mack on the other side.

I dont believe they intend to short change Trubisky, that's just how their ridiculous system ended up grading him. What I saw was a QB with a lot of great qualities who had a few really great games and a few poor ones. I also saw him grow from the beginning of the year to the end of the year. If he can string together more of those good performances, I think everyone will have to say that hes a top 10 QB in the league. I really think this is all just a matter of the draft day common wisdom that trading up was a bad move. I dont agree with that. But more so, even if it was true, it shouldnt tarnish the player, taken at 2 instead of 3. He isnt responsible for the picks they traded. It's all so silly. Just narratives bouncing around an echo chamber of media and internet people repeating the same things to each other.

well said adam. PFF is just silliness. They use real math to relate data which is really just opinions about performances from too small of a sample size. it would be as if I asked 5 of my friends to go a different movie each, and then asked them how they thought the one they saw rated on a scale of 1 to 10. You dont have the same people seeing the same movies so their internal rating systems dont even overlap. Then I hide behind actually good math relating that poor data and call it science. Ridiculous.

and the OL

I had Pineiro as my 7th round pick two years ago in the mock drafts. I am happy we are taking a look at him. If we end up with him, or better, I think we will be OK.

PFF = pfft

(said in soprano voice) OUCH! LOL

He definitely got better at the deep throw in the last part of ther season when he started to trust it and stopped aiming it. One thing I saw from him all of last year was a quick release. He may not have always made the right reads, but he made quick decisions, and as more of those decisions turn out to be the right ones, his rhythm should really shine

unless it's Parkey

Honestly it all goes back to the idea that Pace screwed up by trading from 3 to 2 to get him. I dont think he did, but that was a media narrative. Add that to the amazing year Mahomes had, and you get the "story" that Trubisky is a big mistake. Which is a nice story, but bears (ha bears) no resemblance to reality.

PFF always has ridiculous claims. They have their own metrics, and they obviously dont work.

amen

ahahahaha.

They sure whipped our butts for a couple decades with Favre and Rodgers. The lifetime series has the Packers ahead by two games. That means this year if we sweep them, we will be dead even after 100 years of football, heading into the meat of the Trubisky Nagy Pace era. Time for payback. I hate the Packers, but I LOVE to hate the Packers. It's not like New York and Philly fans who would actually fight in the parking lot. Who would Batman be without the Joker? I LOVE the Packers, thank god they exist so we can beat them.

AZ - right, but theyre saying it is literally night and day compared to training camp last year, not compared to week 17. I get that this is the new baseline that he grows from this year, and that awesome, but they arent saying this is a whole new Mitch Trubisky, theyre just saying he will keep growing from where he left off last year.

I think what they keep saying is how far ahead of where they were THIS TIME last year, not at the end of the season, and thats really not news. We have to see him progress from where he was at the end of last year - and I expect that too, but if you listen, thats not what theyre saying. Theyre not saying he isnt either, they are just saying safe things for the reporters

thats just because we had a team that hadnt had a GM since 1985, and we all thought we were better than the team that drafted David Terrell or Stan Thomas for example. Now that we see a real GM, we see where we actually stand.

ahahahaha

Because I know I could never do as good a job as Pace has done, but Im pretty sure I could ruin a team

I think Trevathan provides more leadership and continuity than any of us realize.

GO PACE. When I was a kid I had a fantasy of being the Bears' GM. Now that I see a real GM, I know I am nowhere good enough to help the team. Now I have a new dream. I want to be the Packers' GM.