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totally. he's quick and shifty, but not a "burner" not a straight line speed kills guy - but plenty twitchy to be good in the slot.

He's not THAT fast. he's in the high 4.4s - hes small too, but what he is is productive, and ultra competitive. He fights for the ball and has excellent hands and body position. In college he had back to back years with over 1,400 yards, and 14 and 18 touchdowns.

yup

It wasnt much of a trade up - more like taking our next year's 2nd pick early this year. The price to accelerate the pick was a 4th. So the price wasn't our 2nd next year, that's just the pick we made, the price was one of our 4ths. If hes the slot receiver I think he is, we did well.

lots of talent on the board now, Id LOVE a trade down

at least one of the pass rushers will be available, so for people who want one, we will have the option if we like him.

Dunno about the pass rusher, but I like a pick on OL or WR here. Help Trubisky! But there are good secondary players left too...

Williams and Daniels are still around, and some WRs too if we want to go offense

DE would be great if he can play. That's what we need most right now. Is Phillips the guy? I havent studied him.

here are 10 players that could help us. at least 4 will be available for us picking 7th OL Hernandez, Carter & Williams WR Sutton, Chark & St. Brown EDGE Carter & Landry CB Jackson & Oliver

well, pass rushers in the 3-4 can come from anywhere, but in a base defense, no matter what alignment you're using, you're rushing four players. We're so used to the 4-3 alignment, we think of two edge rushers, meaning each defensive end. But in a 3-4 base defense, you're going to be rushing your three linemen, and one linebacker. One thing about the 3-4 is you can mix up which linebacker youre going to bring. But usually, you have a best pass rushing OLB, and that's the guy you're going to send most of the time. For us, that's Floyd. And the pass rusher on the other edge of the 4 man rush is... Hicks! You wouldn't take two pass rushing specialists at OLB. I mean, you wouldnt pay the going rate for an all pro pass rushing OLB on both sides. Because unless you're blitzing, you're using one of those guys to do something else rather than rush the passer. And if you're paying him like an edge rusher, and asking him to cover, which might not even be his strength, then you're wasting that value. So if the Bears were going to bolster the pass rush on 3-4 base sets, they'd have looked for another DE, maybe Vita Vea, who I think would be amazing for us too. A good part of the time, especially in situations where we need a pass rush, we're going to be in nickel. That's a four man line. Floyd and Hicks will be the toughest players to block. A pass rushing specialist who puts his hand on the ground is the player to add in those sets. Again, more of a DE type than an OLB type tho. A little bigger, and stronger? So Lorenzo Carter, maybe, but not Harold Landry?

oooh GOOD comment!!

that would be great.

well we couldnt have missed on that price, wed have had to be cheaper than TB, else theyd just choose the higher pick for the same price

probably they were speaking to both, but you make a good point. If we had dropped down to tampas price, theyd still take TBs offer over ours.

or as cheap as they can go, and maybe Pace was holding out for the other 1st.

seems so. I am glad they had their choice of both and I have to trust their pick. Go Roquan!

buffalo traded to TB, so we will have our pick of LBs

if we keep the pick TB may be making the Edmunds / Smith decision for us LOL

ha we may be drafting Vea or Ridley and an extra pick!

yes if only a few spots, buffalo?

hmm maybe nelson goes to indi, and the QBs are dropping

yup, or if one QB goes and both Nelson and Chubb go, we have trade offers

Big surprises from Cleveland taking Mayfield and Ward Nelson falling.

is there a chat room?