BearFan PHX

well they never say "oh we are pretty close" because then youre leaving possible money on the table. Its always no freakin way until its yes.

amen

PFF cant be used as a comparison tool. They are random at best. Of course that's not Schofield's fault either. It just means nothing either way.

totally

yup. his heart wasnt in it.

I was thinking exactly this, especially in the Red Zone.

ESPN says a lot of stuff that makes no sense.

Bears football is the football of the future. Thats because we are always saying "next year" LOL

yup I think thats about the shape of it.

Honestly there are a lot of good people on this board, and better Bears discussions than anywhere else with a minimum of meat-head-ery

Hey Pix, I know you have been having issues for a while now. I just wanted to say I hope things get better for you. Youve been a good guy for as long as ive known ya, and thats gotta be 10 or 15 years now? More?

Im hearing that no one is offering much for him. I dont think its because he isnt good, but instead because they think the Bears are under pressure to trade him, so they think they can steal him cheap? I think given some time, the offers will increase, and if we play well early, and he looks good, then they get a lot richer by the end of September.

didnt stand in his way at least. Poles is running the team now, for better or worse lol

yes, there is a tidbit of actual information there. good analysis.

Nagy used Soup to help him control the locker room. Especially around issues concerning race. The problem with that is that you have someone who has the players' trust who potentially could disagree with Poles. Poles and Flus (and their coaches) want to have direct control over relationships with the players. They arent scared like Nagy was. So Soup represented an extra layer of contact that this group didnt want and didnt need. It makes good sense to remove that layer from the organization. At best he was redundant, and at worst he represented a possible obstacle with the players' support.

exactly. Pace wasnt the BEST talent evaluator, but even worse, he was a good team player. He'd probably be an excellent assistant GM. But he served the coaches, and this is an inversion of the pecking order. The result? Egotistical coaches with no boundaries who fail.

exactly. there is no data. not only is it subjective, but the different people grading different players dont use a common standard. It's worse than random, because it looks like there is information when there isnt,

I would be more worried if PFF had us top ten. lol they are ALWAYS wrong. they're a joke, completely worthless!

yes, and the two fast LBers are going to be huge too.

I didnt expect us to draft a CB and a S with our first two picks, but it surely should turn a weakness into a strength. Let these guys get used to playing together, along with Johnson on the other side, and maybe Jackson even wants to be part of it and puts his body into it? I think our back 7 has the potential to become the best in the NFL. Add a pash rusher and 3T and we could have a top 5 defense in 2023. Who knew that the 202x CHicago Bears would be a dominant 4-3 cover 2 team again? LOL what a crazy ride.

100% We should have fired Nagy and promoted Fangio two years ago. That said, I like the current staff better - I think. On paper. Waiting to see it on the field.

agree with all of this

agree, and thats his point too - until they are in pads, no one has any idea. we all agree.

a-men

well if there is more than one team interested, then it doesnt matter that they know we want to get rid of him. They will bid against each other up to his true value. And if there is no trade, Quinn will play for us. And that's what i expect will happen.