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Washington & Tate would be a good duo. McGlinchey would be fantastic at 8 if he was still there.

In doing all these mocks, one thing is standing out to me: You either LOVE one of the WRs, you trade down, or you're taking a different player at 8. It'd be ideal if there was a WR who merited a top ten pick there for the taking, but I can see that just isn't the case this year. So I think if we go a different way on the first round pick, the odds are that we will go WR in the 2nd. So who would that be? Over and over I ended up on Equanimeous St. Brown. He's tall, well regarded. I wonder who do people like at WR in the 2nd round? That might help you dial in on the everyone agrees mock. If we get a good 2nd round WR, then that makes the 1st pick easier to discuss.

OK, I'm listening. How's this one? Jason, do you like it? no trades. Your score is: 21054 (GRADE: A-) Your Picks: Round 1 Pick 8: Arden Key, DE/OLB, LSU (A+) Round 2 Pick 7: Equanimeous St. Brown, WR, Notre Dame (A) Round 4 Pick 5: Donte Jackson, CB, LSU (A+) Round 4 Pick 15: Brandon Parker, OT, North Carolina AT (A-) Round 5 Pick 8: Deontay Burnett, WR, Southern California (A+) Round 6 Pick 7: Wyatt Teller, OG, Virginia Tech (A+) Round 7 Pick 6: Eddy Pineiro, K, Florida (A+)

OK guys, another first-pick.com draft. No trades. Your score is: 20687 (GRADE: B+ ) Your Picks: Round 1 Pick 8: Bradley Chubb, DE, North Carolina State (A+) Round 2 Pick 7: Auden Tate, WR, Florida State (B ) Round 4 Pick 5: Brian O'Neill, OT, Pittsburgh (B+) Round 4 Pick 15: Donte Jackson, CB, LSU (A+) Round 5 Pick 8: Isaiah Wynn, OG, Georgia (A+) Round 6 Pick 7: Javon Wims, WR, Georgia (A+) Round 7 Pick 6: Eddy Pineiro, K, Florida (A+) Better?

Well they cover TEs too, and pass rush and blitz. Fangio has shown that he likes chess pieces. Look at his defense in SF. He had Patrick Willis and it made a huge difference. With Freeman likely gone, and Travathan injured we were terrible. Roquan Smith is a great player... Anyway, overall I think that draft is both impossible and awesome.

I agree that the sites are ridiculous. the middle picks are impossible, and it'd be a major home run if the draft played out like this. But we DO have a need at ILB, and when you get a player of that caliber, it would allow Fangio to use him a lot of different ways. He's great in coverage, and he has pass rush abilities. His presence would make Floyd better too. I agree that's an impossible draft, but it'd be a damned good one. I think GMs like to take BPA, and you are a bit too position-centric.

firstpick.com draft took the trade down with washington went down to 13 to get Ridley, and picked up an extra 2nd. heavy on WR and I like that Your score is: 18362 (GRADE: B ) Your Picks: Round 1 Pick 13 (WASH): Calvin Ridley, WR, Alabama (A) Round 2 Pick 7: Equanimeous St. Brown, WR, Notre Dame (B+) Round 2 Pick 12 (WASH): Braden Smith, OT/OG, Auburn ( Round 4 Pick 5: Donte Jackson, CB, LSU (A+) Round 4 Pick 15: Darius Leonard, OLB, South Carolina State (C+) Round 5 Pick 8: Marquis Haynes, OLB/DE, Ole Miss (A+) Round 6 Pick 7: Christian Sam, ILB, Arizona State (A+) Round 7 Pick 6: Eddy Pineiro, K, Florida (A+)

Thanks Mongo!

I think all of these sites are unrealistic, I was surprised he was there.

Here's from walkthemock,com (what site do you guys use?) 1:8 Roquan Smith LB Georgia 2:8 Equanimeous St. Brown WR Notre Dame 4:8 Tyrell Crosby OT Oregon 4:15 Scott Quessenberry G UCLA 5:8 Jalen Davis CB Utah St. 6:8 Keke Coutee WR Texas Tech I took a look at OL, but it sure does look to me like Roquan Smith might be in the Bears' plans if there's no trade down. I'd take a kicker in the 7th.

2018 Free Agents Andrew Norwell, G, Panthers. Age: 26 Justin Pugh, G/OT, Giants. Age: 28 Jack Mewhort, G, Colts. Age: 27 Ja'Wuan James, OT, Dolphins. Age: 26 Cameron Fleming, OT, Patriots. Age: 25

I used the draft simulator at fanspeak.com to generate this draft. No trades. I was torn between reaching for a WR or trying for more of a BPA approach, and I decided that Pace is gonna sign a WR in free agency. I know he will want more, but it freed me up to take value early, and the way it fell, I ended up taking an ILB. This wasn't the draft I thought I would make, but it is excellent. I doubt we could pull this off, the site has some questionable rankings I guess, but if we did, we'd be a hell of a team to reckon with. Round 1 - Pick 8 - LB Roquon Smith (Georgia) Round 2 - Pick 7 - Edge Marcus Davenport (UTSA) Round 4 - Pick 5 - WR Equanimeous St. Brown (Notre Dame) Round 4 - Pick 15 - CB J.C. Jackson (Maryland) Round 5 - Pick 8 - WR D.J. Chark (LSU) Round 6 - Pick 7 - TE Tyler Conklin (Central Michigan) Round 7 - Pick 6 - K Eddie Piniero (Florida) It doesnt add to the OL, which is a problem, but it adds a LOT to the defense, and gives Trubisky more targets. If you assume a FA WR too, that's a shotgun approach to upgrading the WRs. Look for WR and OL in Free Agency and make this happen Pace! LOL

What site do you use to do that?

Bears are never in a 4-3, but often in a 4 man front, but that's nickel, so a 4-2

It could be not even a matter of blame too. It could simply be a difference in philosophy, again flexibility vs raw strength.

I was just using Brady as a way to talk about it, because he's in the news talking about it, but youre right that he is a QB and doesnt get hit the same. Still, I think that flexibility training does help reduce injuries at every position.

I think the big difference is whether you focus on strength or flexibility. I posted on here years ago when they fired Rusty whateverhisnamewas and Emery brought in strength guys that it was a mistake. Obviously you build strength no matter what, but if you follow what Tom Brady is all about in terms of nutrition and flexibility, then there is something about flexibility training that helps to avoid injuries. We sure have had a lot of them. I hope Pace knocks this one out of the park too. Im not saying we are going to be the best team in the league year in and year out, but i think we are on our way to being a constant top 15 or top 10 team year in and year out with our fair share of playoff appearances, and hopefully, a couple super bowl victories as well. The arrow is pointing up, and I think we are about to have a real live NFL team. There are only like 12 of them in the league.

Finally! https://chicago.suntimes.com/sports/bears-t...er-nate-breske/

I don't think the cohesion argument has any weight in this case. They were't GOOD, and the entire offensive playbook and approach is changing. If these guys grade out as the best Free Agent options at a given price they'll stay, otherwise, theyre just the same as every other Free Agent.

We have tons of cap space tho. I think White makes it to camp at least, but I don't think more than 2 of the WRs on our team make the 53 man roster next year on opening day. Wright might have a chance.

If Barkley is there, we will get trade down offers.

Yeah, either way we are going to revamp the WRs, and adding any of the top 10 non QBs would impact our team positively. You can never have enough pass rushers. Dominant Corners really help in the playoffs. Of course that's because they stop Qbs and WRs who are obviously equally important. It all really hinges on Halas Hall's evaluation of the talent in Free Agency and the Draft class. Luckily, (or was it plan?) we are in position to ride an ascending defense, and we have the QB already in place, and have therefore attracted offensive minded coaches who have the experience to evaluate WRs better than probably anyone else there.

That would be ideal, but I think in the current market prices are higher than we think. The NFL has seen such inflation in the cap, that the draft becomes even more valuable, and for example a QB who only played 13 games in college becomes someone to trade UP for. And we think, that guy hasnt done enough to warrant that. And we are totally right about what he has done, and how much risk there is. But like old men who havent been to the grocery store in 15 years, they cant believe how expensive everything is. And yes, even the QB that we identified correctly STILL has a price tag that high. He isnt being overrated by ability, his fair price is just insane compared to what we are used to. And Ridley and Sutton may be the same. Especially if our staff has a clear preference for one over the other. it's crazy out there. But yeah a trade down and still get Ridley or Sutton after they new coaches and pace have agreed that the talent is good, that'd be amazing. So I guess I'm saying, I dunno if they'll be there at 15.

totally. There are a lot of good players that will be available at 8 this year in positions that could really help us. I hope we get a trade down offer and bag one of them anyway.

when the best player available is that much of a stud you gotta consider it. Green Bay took Rogers with Favre in his prime. He wont be there at 8 tho. You gotta add Calvin Ridley to this list, because he is likely to be the pick. Or Courtland Sutton.