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Yeah I have a gut feeling about Cunningham, but no real evidence.

All of this is so true. Flus is a fraud. I had forgotten (repressed?) that Hard Knocks moment. What the hell. So here I am, hoping that a guy i don't really have any particular evidence based reason to believe in, who is not a football guy, who's actual job is to build a new stadium, can make the kids behave themselves and make the right decisions. I'm telling you, I can't prove it, and it may not be fair, but I don't trust Poles either. He kept Eberflus. He oversaw Waldron. If I hear that Ian Cunningham didn't want to keep Flus, I'd fire Poles tomorrow and promote Cunningham.

Caleb Williams IS the haul!

As if we needed more reasons... Sheesh

and all that with awful coaching except for the OC the last two weeks. We have our QB. Finally.

without a corresponding pass rush, soft zones are the worst. When we have them in 3rd and 12 you just KNOW theyre going to complete a pass in the middle of the field. We've been seeing it for YEARS. This team has no institutional memory. Each new coaching staff tries to make a living with bubble screens. They dont remember what happened with the previous staff. Same with soft zones. there are so many good reason to fire Eberflus, but youre right, even what he's supposedly good at sucks.

absolutely. The fact that we got a second kick blocked and THEN in game we made adjustments tells you that Eberflus didnt demand changes during the week. They keep giving everyone another chance,. Theyre all about loyalty. I guess the idea is that if you let them get away with mistakes, they love you for it. But it doesnt work that way. You LOSE games and the locker room that way. It's like being a parent. You dont make decisions designed to make your kids get away with stuff so they like you, you raise them to be better and accountable. In the long run they love you more for that, and they win in life. Also, I think we need to admit that Braxton Jones cannot stop a bull rush. We need a new LOT next year.

I hear ya, but its just another inexplicable Matt Eberflus move. I also agree they should have kicked the field goal instead of going for it on 4th down. Caleb is obviously going to be a real star - lets give him a real coach, and lets let that coach pick his staff without the Bears forcing him to retain anyone. If he chooses to retain people, great, but thats gotta be his decision 100%.

YES

THIS. If we had simply kicked the extra point, and everything else had been the same, we win in regulation. Our coaching is the worst.

getting the right coach is much more important. Getting even the #2 guy so Caleb doesnt have to learn another language is mis-valuing things in the decision, in my opinion. RIght now, I'm liking Kliff Kingsbury, and he worked with Caleb a couple years ago, so he probably already speaks a language Caleb knows too? But if a 50 year old Bill Belichick was available, I wouldnt hesitate for a second, no matter if Caleb needed to learn a new system or not. It's not like Caleb is throwing for 400 yard a game in the current system... Continuity makes the most sense when youre having wild success. We have only gone from dysfunctional to competent. Now is not the time to take our chips off the table.

If they interview everyone and Brown is the pick, so be it. I dont expect that, but OK. But theyd better not give him any extra points for continuity, because we are looking for change, not continuity. I like Kilff Kingsbury. Ben Johnson is intriguing, but Im not sold on his leadership skills. There is a possibility that the Niners will fire Kyle Shanahan too. Id take a look at him if hes available. Brown may be a great head coach some day, but I dont think he's ready yet to be hired in that capacity.

why the hell would we want to keep continuity? Just because something was a 3 out of 10 and now is a 5 isnt good enough. We need an 8 or a 9. I dont know why youre so reluctant to move on and try for greatness.

I agree, but if we get an edge with #1 and a DT with our first 2nd, unless we scored big in free agency, we waited too long to take OL. We really need at least 3 new starters on the OL. And a real edge threat. Free Agency isnt usually great for OL, so we are looking a tad short?

In a way thats good. If we had, say a #3 pick, it would be hard to pass up a top pass rusher there. #5 to #7 is a good place to pick up a stud OL if there is one? Then again, we could go edge rusher with pick #1, and then spend both of our 2nds on OL too. Probably get a safety in round 3. Im speaking in terms of usual allotment of talent, I havent looked at the actual list yet. I cant do that this early! lol All of this assuming those positions arent already addressed in free agency too.

I assume that even having a top 5 pick would mean a good shot at an impact Offensive Lineman? I dont know what the crop looks like this year. Is there a QB that someone would trade the haul for if we had #1? Deja Vu.

Yeah I wasnt saying that about you, I was debating against the idea of him coming back, in this case because you thought Poles might, so I was saying why Poles would be wrong to. But I want to pick our next head coach from the full pool of talent, the best of which is currently coaching on other teams, and not pick from the best of whats out there right now. So Id wait for the offseason for that.

it's clear the roster has talent and Caleb is a star in the making, but the coaching has been really screwing us. Youre right about his stats. The only thing Id add is my constant refrain "thats because PFF is random"

lol - sorry I just had to do it.

Swift's 635 yards currently is only 16,101 behind Payton's Bear's career yardage, which I think is probably the Bears franchise record.

I think the great teams always have a TE that really contributes to the passing game.

I dont want Flus fired now either. Do it at the end of the season. Im just saying I dont trust Poles to make the next choice. If Poles is retained, I hope Warren is a huge part of the decision. ANd having said that, I think that means you gotta fire Poles, and with Cunningham in the wings, it makes it that much easier to do. I doubt we hire another Trace Armstrong guy.

no doubt Bowers is great, and your point about them being different in style and complementary is a good one too. I just think they couldnt sink that much value into the TE position, And maybe thats a mistake, too,

Im not rooting for the Bears to lose. Now that we have Caleb, Im not in tankathon mode. What Im rooting for is for Caleb to develop, and to win as many games as possible this year. All Im saying is even if we win more games I want the coaching staff gone in the offseason, and probably Poles too. ANd that is because I am rooting for us to win as many games as possible in the future. This isnt about me being right, its about Eberflus being terrible.

Bowers is a hell of an athlete and slot receiver even as a TE. i think that because we had just spent money extending Kmet, we went with a more traditional receiver. But I would trade Kmet for Bowers straight up any day of the week for sure.