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fair enough. youre saying Vick had more quickness. And he was ridiculous there is no doubt. The great thing is, different as they are, Fileds is plenty fast and is going to present real problems for defenses. When you're mobile AND have deep ball accuracy, the defense cant win no matter what they do.

Vick ran a 4.33 at the combine which was considered insane. Is 4.44 really that much slower on the field? 11/100ths of a second over 40 yards?

yeah, youd better be nice to me LOLOL In reality, this move is at least a year late. THe writing has been on the wall for a while, nothing special that I noticed it. A lot of people did.

I think we need another EDGE rusher, and there is still room for upgrades on the OL and at S as well as the CB you mentioned.

maybe they want Foles? And we can throw Miller in too, you know, because they have familiarity LOL

exactly, but even from the list of already available FA, there are some great names. With a couple more holes filled, we could be quite dangerous.

exactly.

yes I said scrambling to ensure their jobs AFTER this bubble theyve created. What Im saying is the window is open, and they are probably inclined to do the most with it in the shortest term they can. Not, say, willing to tank for two years as the QB develops and get high picks around him like a new coach might.

So, now that we see a window of hope opening up, and with Nagy and Pace still scrambling to secure their jobs past whatever bubble they've created from this draft, it might be time to add some quality free agents to put us in the hunt. And there are quite a few good names still available, and since the cap shrunk, they will likely be lowish money short term deals. Especially at EDGE, DB, and OL I just saw this, and a lot of these players could really help. Add two, and we are looking kind of dangerous.

nailed it. 100%

awesome I hope this is what it looks like on the field too!

LOL pretty much

I just hope we have a pass rush again with Goldman back. I need to see Mack get back to form, and someone has to get pressure from the other side. There is reason for optimism, but I want to see it on the field.

you're totally right, and whatever mistakes Jenkins makes won't be more than Leno would have made. So keeping him doesn't really buy you anything I guess. I do admit I was surprised they were this bold. Glad to see it. A little late, but glad to see it. I can say this: this team will be fun to watch. There will be lots of stories and developments to follow. I wonder if the defense is going to wake up with Goldman back, and an offense that should score enough to make the games worth fighting for.

YES YES YES YES YES YES YES I agree Jenkins may not be ready, but perhaps this year is the graduate school he will need, even if it comes at a cost. As Stinger said, this is an ascending player. I gotta say this sure feels like Nagy and Pace feel like they can build and not "win now" I do fault them for seeing this a year (or two) late though. If you watched his tape, rather than just the games, you see he was ALL over the place. Not just getting beat, but consistently blocking the wrong man. That's stuff pee wee players can do. He was a huge part of the overall problem with this team. And yet I am surprised they did it this quickly. If they get a guy like Fisher to come in, that'd be great. But you know what? If they put Jenkins in there day one, and he makes a few mistakes, hell, Leno was making lots them too. I bet Jenkins, rookie mistakes and all, will be an instant upgrade.

It seems to vary by year too. Some years it is as high as 30% https://bleacherreport.com/articles/1641528-where-does-nfl-talent-come-from I guess the point is that even 1st rounders are a gamble, but half the players in the league come from rounds 1 and 2 and the rest are lower, with over half of those undrafted.

yeah its about 30%

As long as they have competition for Leno, Im happy. Leno gets replaced when the new guy is better than he is. THat can happen a few ways, but we dont have to watch him destruct and stay with him.

coverage guy. tough sure tackler who struggles with change of direction and backpedal LOL "run as fast as you can down the field and knock the crap out of the returner"

Moses had an ACL tear, maybe his medical isnt very good?

yes and speedy gadget player.

> Bears trade Seattle for picks 217 and 250 Nice. I guess that OT was falling, and we sure don't need him now.

I agree. I think they are covering permutations to coach them up and see what they can do. When someone can push Leno out, everyone moves up one slot

I dont think he is a LT, probably a G or a swing backup.

Hard to say, since we just took Borom, who is probably a guard or a swing backup. That says they arent loving their current depth. Or maybe just creating more competition at OL.