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The roster is actually pretty good.

CW is just getting started and has already shown more in this circus than any Bears QB in a long time. Just like we gave both Fields and Eberflus 3 years, Caleb should surely get more time. I still think he can be one of the best NFL QBs ever.

Well I think Eberflus shouldnt be here next year, but as far as finishing out this year, I dont care as much. If we think a new coach could still save the season, then thats an argument for sure, Im not sure i can see that? Oh now Im reading further and youre being sarcastic. Why?

its seems glaringly obvious now. I really thought he needed to go before this season, but maybe the Bears just wont pay two coaches for 2 years. Hopefully theyll eat his deal next year to get someone else in here.

why did we abandon the run (again?) it was working pretty well early. Tony Dungy would have won this game. 17-13 as for going for it on the 4th and 11, I said outloud to my GF before the snap "I dont disagree with this one, as much as Ive hated all the 2nd qtr choices" We really missed Sweat today, Murray had all day back there. But most of all, beside abandoning the run, our WRs were never open. Waldron sucks. Maybe new coaches could help?

OK so this provides some perspective. He didnt "leave practice" as in left for the day, he just went to the locker room to collect himself and then returned. I like players that care. If he got emotional and needed a minute I am all for it. Unfortunately it will become a narrative that he left, and that puts more pressure on Eberflus, looking in the media narrative like he has lost the team. In this case, unfairly.

whoa - do you have a link for that?! That is a huge problem if it's true. EDIT - OK here yeah it's everywhere - that is a HUGE problem. He is acting like a child. Apparently happened on Wednesday. I guess having a tough season is good int he long run - you find out who your warriors are (and arent cough Davis) including coaches. We will be a stronger team as we remove the losers. And we get to see where the team's head and pride is at, how strong they come out. If they come out flat again now, that is really on Eberflus and Poles needs to take note of all of it, players included. https://bearswire.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/bears/2024/11/03/bears-tyrique-stevenson-left-practice-after-being-told-of-benching/76031535007/

It doesnt matter. You win or lose games as a head coach based on the decisions you make. If your players pull out a win anyway, it doesnt mean you made the right choices. And if you have a pattern of making wrong choices, then you are setting your team up to lose games even if you win some too. I think there is a difference between rooting for your team to do well, and making excuses for their mistakes. The key to winning is accountability - that's waht makes people get better and learn from their mistakes. As for being one play away from not hearing this, I disagree again. I've been pointing out his errors in games we won too. And again, losing when you get beat is fine. It's part of football. You don't win every game. But making unforced errors, continued mismanagement of the clock, challenges, and situational football is a problem that will lose us more games in the future too. Had Eberflus defended the sideline on the second to last play like he should have, and had he had his team in position to properly defend the hail mary, and had he taken a timeout to get everyone set, and then a miracle had happened and the Commanders got the TD anyway, this would be a very different conversation. Had he given the ball to Roschon Johnson instead of Kramer, and had he punted instead of going for it on 4th and 1 from his own 20 in the 2nd qtr down 6, a hail mary wouldnt have won the game for the Commanders. His early mistakes set up his late ones, and they all added together to take a win away from us, and make a playoff berth much more difficult to achieve. It's OK to get beaten. It's not OK to give games away. The head coach is supposed to help you WIN games. At worst they should be neutral. But if they are helping you lose games, they should not be head coach.

OK they had re-signed Jake Curhan a while back to the practice squad, and elevated him to the active roster. So we do have SOME options before wed have to move Pryor over and go with Davis. I assume Kramer is in the pipeline at OG too.

I think that's most likely as well. It will be good to see what he's got. Maybe not a truly fair audition, off of IR and right into the fire, but it will certainly be his chance to show something. The team needs players on the line, and if he shows well, he can earn himself a more extended audition. I didn't like what Id seen from him in the past, but hopefully he can take this opportunity and make something great out of it. Also, none of this should be construed to imply that I want Davis in there if at all possible. Let's go Borom!

exactly - once its a pattern, its already too late.

The only way Davis gets on the field is if we need Pryor at LT. I think we either get Borom - Jenkins (with Kramer as BU) - Shelton - Pryor - Wright OR Pryor - Jenkins (with Kramer as BU) - Shelton - Davis - Wright So I guess it comes down to who is worse, Borom or Davis. My GUESS is that they start with Borom. Also, I suppose there is some chance we could see Bates at Center too, but I doubt it this week. Maybe next week.

thank you I guess we get Borom, or we get Pryor and that means Nate Davis plays. Ugh either way. I have lost all faith in Davis, but maybe Borom will redeem himself and there will be a bright spot.

Well one thing thats different from your analogy is my support or criticism of Eberflus doesnt affect his outcome, unlike the divorce or work on it scenario? He keeps making poor choices, and his job is to make good ones. I dont hope he keeps making bad choices, but I notice that he does. Whether I hope he does or not has no effect. I am also aware that unlike the divorce scenario, there is someone out there waiting to take over the job who will do a GREAT job, so while working with my alcoholic raging wife to fix the marriage might seem noble, if a perfect wonderful nurturing woman with whom I could have a deep and meaningful marriage is waiting in the wings, then working on it might not be the best course of action? I believe teams require accountability to thrive and grow. I dont think Eberflus is any good at leading. I'm rooting for Poles to do his job right and make the right choice and move on from Eberflus. Just like I was rooting for Eberflus to do the right thing regarding Stevenson, but he obviously didnt. Wed seen Stevenson get more and more aggressive with his crowd taunting antics way before this happened. Where was Flus to instill discipline for it's own sake BEFORE we paid the price?

its more like the husband keeps making the choice to hug other women over and over

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Oops - did some research, FLus is signed through 2025 - hopefully the Bears can fire him after this year if that's what Poles wants to do, and ownership isnt forbidding a year of paying two coaches.

Oh, and the one I am the MOST sure needs help is Morgan. i think he is a primary cause of the trouble. And then I blame Waldron and Flus for not doing something about it, but a lot of it starts with Morgan's responsibilities. He needs a partner at least. Call it OL quality control or something. But someone has to teach the scheme better to the players. They often look lost on who to block, and that's been true since at least when Morgan got here.

Yeah that makes sense. For you, being loyal is supporting them no matter what as long as they are on the team. For me, being loyal means calling out the weaknesses and wanting them addressed. But we are both wanting whats best for the Bears of course. And I'll say this too, to echo what Mongo just said. While I am certain the Eberflus will never be a top ten coach (even if he wins coach of the year due to team performance) I would like nothing more than to be proved wrong about that. If Eberflus looks good to me, i will happily say it. My views on Waldron have morphed somewhat over the past weeks. I see the positives he has in the architecture of the passing game. I can see why he is (or was) well thought of. I still see poor rhythm in play calling, and a real problem with ignoring personnel groupings, being too fixated on Xs and Os and not enough on who's gonna be the one doing it. But still I have definitely seen growth from him over the past few weeks, and if I see more, i will definitely admit it. I dont need my current narrative to be right, I like to think my current narrative is really just where the player or coach is as far as what theyve already done and shown. Show me something new, and I have no problem seeing it and adjusting what i think. But winning games alone wont change my mind on Eberflus. His situational choices have to be sound too. So, like you, I am rooting for them to change for the better. I just see what I see, and when its a long time pattern, then I become more sure that it's real and isn't gonna change. but show me something new, and I'd be a fool not to see it. Then I'd probably say something like "OK that was one game, I liked what i saw, let's see if he can do it over a sustained period of time" and if they do that, then I'm on board. But if I had to bet, I'd bet that Eberflus will never be the head coach on a team that wins a Superbowl. And I'd put the odds pretty heavy on it. But yeah, I'd LOVE to be wrong about that.

Good coaches, even on the pee wee level dont make those mistakes. It's not like he dropped a pass, he just chose something he should know better than to do? A coach should be 100% error free on that one. There is nothing forcing them to make that error? I dont think anyone thinks hes going to be fired soon, I think he is just saying that he wants him gone when the time is right. And I dont think he is miserable. I think he just wants a competent coach. We all do of course. All (95%?) of the sports commentators seem to agree so its not like he is out on a ledge in some extreme way? I get that youre an optimist for the team, and i respect that. But it isn't traitorous to want bad coached and players gone, its just another way to want the Bears to be great, which is what we all want.

this is where I'm at too. Players make mistakes, but there is no reason for a coach to make those kind of errors. Going for it on 4th an 1 down 6 in the 2nd quarter from your own 40 is just WRONG, and that's the second time hes done it this year. Players have other players playing against them, and sometimes they lose a battle. But it is not hard to know that you need to punt. no defender is trying to force your lips to say go for it.

one point - Eberflus' contract is up at the end of this year, so they don't need to fire him per se. EDIT - NO he is signed thru 2025 I suspect the McCaskey's cheapness is why they didnt fire him last year - didnt want to pay two head coaches at once. EDIT for two years It's crazy. You throw a quarter of a billion dollars around on player salaries every year, and you cant find a few million to pay Flus while you get a new HC that aligns with Williams? Hopefully they will eat one year of double paying. I think we need the owners to sell this team.

Ben Johnson's pretty cool. Notice the absolute trickery, but in no case, do you ask anyone to do anything they dont have a skill for as an athlete. No linemen.

Yeah great culture Eberflus.

Wow. So here is Shane Waldron on the handoff to Kramer: “But I have all the confidence in the world in all our players. It’s something we’ve repped and worked on. It came up in the moment, as a third-and-one call. It didn’t work out.” So you have confidence in Kramer to what? do everything? run a go route? kick a long field goal? all your players have your confidence in everything? You cant freakin admit that you asked a guy to do something that wasnt in his core skill set and that made a miscue more likely, and that handing to it Roschon would have been better? Why not put in Roschon at center then? If you have confidence in everyone to do everything? Maybe Billings can play slot receiver? What a load of crap answer.