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You dont know who Colin Cowherd is? Not saying his takes are right, but hes pretty well known?

Well I guess the argument would be that BJ knows what he's doing and it's a whole new coaching staff. And I also buy into that, but Im gonna agree with you, we need to see it in pads first for SURE.

Yeah, whenever you run a system that's different than the norm, you get players at a discount

no thats 100% - I did know he likes larger DEs becasue he asks them to set the edge, and that leaves LBers free

cool! I feel very good about our DT rotation. A killer DE cant hurt, but if its good enough for DA, its good enough for me.

Maybe youre right re: Kaleb and the draft.

could be. I still think he had his eye on Kaleb Johnson and Cam Skatebo and got played in the draft, but either way, we will definitely be looking for HB and DE next year, and it's good to hear that next year is stocked with talent at HB!

I wouidnt trade him today, but after camp in pads, when the next trade window opens, at the end of camp, I think he will be trade bait, and if we cant find a partner, he might even get cut. They arent gonna keep all three, and if you know Braxton isnt your future, hes the odd man out.

I have no doubt that Bieniemy is a great RB coach. Still, vision is kind of an inherent talent. Of course people can learn and be coached, but I'll be Swift has been coached before, and yet he still has mediocre vision at best. Im hoping RJ does well, and I look forward to seeing Monangai in pads, but as a 7th round pick, he's gonna have to show me before i start considering him an answer. i would LOVE it is he is dominant, but I need to see it first. I still think we need a real HB1.

If you know youre not gonna keep him, wouldnt you want a trade if one was possible?

The running game has changed in the past 5 years as defenses play more 2 deep safeties and shell defenses to counter the modern passing offenses. I dont think you can use KC as a model for that now. We need a HB that can grind out first downs consistently. They dont need to be speedy, but HBs that break off a single 70 yard run in a game are less valuable than one that consistently rips off 7 and 12 yard runs. So you need a back with consistent vision, and I dont think Swift is that guy.

PFF is random. Braxton cant handle a bull rush and will give up sacks and pressures at key moments, because the DE will save the power moves for those moments. If you think he's so great, then someone will trade for him. Can't have it both ways.

if we could get a 4th for him that would be amazing, especially considering he was drafted in the 5th I also believe in Tremaine Edmund's athleticism, but he would save $15M on the cap if you cut or trade him next year. And Kmet is another $10M so you get $25M right there if you need it.

right. he was already susceptible to bull rushes, and without an offseason to train, hes not gonna come back stronger than he was last year before the injury. You kinda have to proceed on the idea that his time as a starter is over for us.

I've been thinking similar things. I know Roschon doesn't really have explosiveness as a home run hitter, but hes a tough runner in the mold of David Montgomery, Raymont Harris and similar backs. I've always loved those kind of players. So far, RJ hasnt shown the vision that the other two have/had but with a proper blocking scheme, that could all change. I still wish we had Kaleb Johnson or Cam Skatebo.

yes, and this is all gonna be predicated on being able to run the football too. The OL seems like it's gonna be OK, now who is gonna get those tough yards?

Interesting. I cant really say i know anything about DA's defense other than that it is aggressive and he has presided over several highly ranked defenses. Oh and I know he likes his DEs a little heavier to set the edge so LBers flow. ANd i suppose that if you like bigger DEs, then youre not expecting as much speed rush from those DEs. Interesting, thank you for that.

good point. I should probably say Burden & Zaccheaus = 600 yards.

there is no doubt this roster and staff are VERY different from what we've seen before. There are lots of reasons for optimism. I am very much looking forward to seeing it on the field. I do expect great things, but there have been teams that had a lot of talent before that just didn't gel, so there's a reason they play the games, it's not won during the offseason. But if I had to bet, i would bet that the bears will be significantly improved, and the window should open for Caleb to lead us deep into the playoffs and hopefully a championship in the coming years. I am very excited for this coming year, and it sure feels like we are on the right path! I do think we still need a dominant pass rusher, so that will probably limit how far we can go against the really good teams. I wonder about our RB room, and while I have hope, i worry about LT too. Im VERY much looking forward to seeing how the LTs look in pads. If Trapilo (or any of them) ascends to become not just serviceable but actually GOOD, then that will help a lot. There are certainly more reasons for hope than we've had in a quite a while. And like you said here - the coaching staff looks to be elite. That is amazing, and should help all the players ont he roster reach their best potential. Dont forget Dan Roushar - he's gonna make that OL better too - including Trapilo and Wright!

If Burden gets playing time, it could make it hard to feed so many mouths. This is still my prediction, from April: My total guess, assuming LT isnt a total disaster, and Caleb isnt running for his life: Caleb Williams 4,050 yards passing DJ Moore 800 yds receiving Rome Odunze 1,050 yds receiving Luther Burden 600 yds receiving Colston Loveland 750 yds receiving Cole Kmet 350 yds receiving HBs 500 yds receiving

Yeah Flus sucks! Something that's also lost in all this is that apparently it was Caleb's Dad who told the ESPN writer that Caleb told him that - thats a 3 man chain of telephone now. Who knows exactly what the nature of Caleb's complaint was? One thing we can be sure of is that the Bears offensive staff SUCKED at preparing the team, so whatever it is that Caleb actually said to his dad, it was probably true.

totally agree, or yell at Cleveland and Houston for making those deals.

Look I cant help it if you dont make sense and dont even remember what you said a day earlier. Youre the one calling out people for not being "optimistic" and saying that we need to form an opinion right now. That was you. Also, one of the funniest things in this thread is in your previous post you said that you werent saying the roster was perfect while you simultaneously said that me calling that silly was disrespecting your opinion LOL You have a long history of lecturing us all on how we need to love every current player and coach. From Leno and Fields to Eberflus and last years offensive line, you call anyone who says they arent good enough a hater or a pessimist. It's like we are insulting your family or something. And as you stack up the losses, the times it turns out you were totally wrong over and over, you just keep going. I said wed have 4 new starters on the OL this year, and you were all over me about that. You got all butthurt that I said Kmet is on the bubble. If all you want is sunshine and rainbows, there are plenty of boards for that. The thing I really like about this board is that pretty much everyone is smart, and knows the rhythm of the NFL year, and what makes good football. I've learned lots from a bunch of members here, recently and over the years. And you are the one who omits qualifiers like "I think" and "probably" more than anyone. And Ive called you out on it, so you come back trying to find instances where I might have missed one. Youre a "right fighter" but your arguments are usually wrong. So that makes you annoying. Anyway, it doesnt matter. You'll just have to deal with reality as it comes like the rest of us.

I can see Burden being an issue about this, but i suspect Trapilo wants that starting job more. And I cant really predict Turner.

LOL ooooh boy. If I missed writing "I think" once then my DEEPEST apologies. Coming from you tho, it's a joke. No matter what you say, we will see what we have when the pads come on. Looking forward to that.