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Certainly over the past decades, this has been correct for our Bears. Hopefully with a real coach and staff, this changes. It's not the building that's cursed, it's just been previously inhabited by incompetents. There is reason to hope that this will be different. But you left room for that in your comment. You said prove it for a couple years. That's fair, because all the flowery words mean nothing, until you see it on the field.

Seems like when the Giants took Skatebo, then we wanted to trade back.

I guess, but if you really like Kiran, why spend a 2nd rounder on an OT? Maybe Kiran is the swing, and now Tapilo is the most likely starter?

They drafted an OT in the 2nd round, only the 56th player taken. Why would they use a 2nd on the position when they used a 3rd last year unless they thought they needed more competition (i.e. an upgrade) at that position? 2nd round is pretty high priority. Also, Banks might have been the pick if he was still on the board. We cant know that?

It's SO true. No one knows anything, so you may as well watch tape and just go with what you see. It's not that they're stupid. I think it's that they take in too MUCH information, and try to fit it all in - rumors, narratives. For example, Campbell's arms are too short. And the guy goes 4th overall. And we all know a lot of these guys will bust too. So for example, I predict Membou wont be great. He may be serviceable for a while, but I think Banks will have the better career. Obviously it's gonna take a few years to see. But this is my feeling based off of tape. I dont know their 40 times. I look at that for skill players sure, but not OL etc. But what we CAN say now, is just because so and so said something doesn't mean anything. Teams value players very differently from each other anyway so even if a pundit is "right" in terms of seeing the world the way the Bears do, they may have no ability to see the world the way the Saints do. And i think that all means that if someone watches some tape, their opinion isnt stupid or wrong just because some pundit sees things differently

but you yourself were drawing lines to players based on the 30 visits!

right. so those that read the tea leaves too hard arent necessarily looking at any information at all. I often feel like the pundits are wrong not because they dont have enough information, but because they have too much. It's just how a guy plays on tape, what his upside is, and if his character is good.

kudos! hes gonna be good for us too. who can a defense cover now?!

yup I just realized and edited my post above. oops! LOL

well for one PFF is random, but also hes not great against the run, so maybe that dinged him too. I dunno. We pick again soon too. HB for sure. EDIT - oops next pick is round 4.

It's Shemar Turner. DT Good pass rush, but not great vs the run - a 3rd down DT

Bech is a stud. We dont need him, especially after Burden. But hes a good player

Johnson got Loveland Randle-El got Burden Roushar got Trapillo now Bienemy gets a RB and the defense needs something...

Green to the Ravens. Wow. Green and Starks. Ravens really know defense.

apparently Trapillo has "LT traits" but might need some time to develop

Ozzie Trapillo! OT a lot of my guys said good things about him. I never saw his tape. Played LT in 2022, and was very good at RT the last couple years. NFL Network says "Day One Starter at RT" Maybe we are moving Wright to LT. That would make sense with the moves weve made.

There goes Belton. Grant from W&M is next. had 30 visits with both. Green for us?!

Please not Green to GB

I think part of the trade down was to make an extra pick to get Green.

Its getting near time for Mike Green and a HB

Maybe. I'm sure they're evaluating Kiran vs the rookies. Cuz last years tape isnt anything good. But it wasnt really Kiran's fault either. Or they like Belton or Grant, had meetings with both. One point to make - who were the two most mouthy players on Offense last year? DJ and Kmet. Both just got competition.

We are playing this draft VERY well, if you dont factor in the LT. Let's see what happens.

BLECH there goes Ersery. Too bad.

Houston just traded up and they need OL.

One funny note: the 4th rounder we got from Buffalo is the one we traded them last year to move up to grab Booker. "I want my pick back! And David Freakin Putney!" lol