BearFan PHX

It's hard to say. I'm still a big fan of his talent, but there is something about him that I cant put my finger on. I heard one sportswriter say that maybe he's trying to thread the needle of being pro Bear, but not disrespectful to another team that might trade up for him. That seems far fetched. That Allen came out to see him might indicate that he's coming to Chicago. Poles doesnt know him yet, so I guess it's more respectful. He DID squeeze, but the look aways were fast. Did he just ignore Eberflus? Then again he slipped on ESPN and said "and Keenen is HERE for a 4th rounder" meaning Chicago... I dunno, there are so many tea leaves to overreact to. Anyway, while I'd still take him at #1, I know what you mean AZ54. Something is weird. I feel it too. P.S. Im not predicting this, but I have been talking about a scenario for a while now where if Caleb didnt want to come to Chicago, and he told Poles that privately, would Poles want to announce it? Doesnt it make Chicago look bad and powerless? So mightn't both participate in a charade that we traded down for the haul? So no one judges Caleb, and the Bears dont get publicly dissed? It's a far fetched theory. But if we dont take him, Im always gonna wonder.

here's a link to get around the paywall. All you ever have to do it put archive.is in front of the www part for any protected article https://archive.is/www.chicagotribune.com/2024/03/20/chicago-bears-caleb-williams-pro-day/

100% - hopefully they will seal up this loophole.

I truly am glad to see everyone starting to align behind Caleb. I think he is going to make all of us excited to be Bear fans. I had thought this survey was going to be more scattered, so maybe we are all going to be a community again next year.

did MHJr do any physicals? I feel like based on what Caleb did, the league should make the Combine physicals mandatory, if you want to come into the league. Participating in drills and the rest, having a pro day, thats all up to the player in my opinion, but if you want in the league, you should have to do a physical? Caleb says he only wants to do physicals for teams that could really draft him. But what about a dark horse team that wants to trade up? Do they have to alert the entire league that they are planning that in order to get a physical? Seems wrong?

yeah, I was just having fun because of you having some about the hugging comment. It wasnt related to this thread, just like your hugging comment wasnt really part of the other thread either.

I liked what was said earlier about maybe trading down to #11 or whatever to pick up the other LSU WR. You could make a case for doing that for JPJ too I guess, but id like to see us get a real WR to learn under Allen. OT and DL is on the block at 9 too if the right guys fall?

And all I sad at the time was that I think a GM should have a little more distance from the players, and with Poles being young and a former player, i was hoping he wasn't getting too sucked into wanting to be liked by the players, because that can be a kind of a conflict of interest. Then what followed was weeks of people bashing me for that comment. Just like there were months of bashing me because i was early to see that Justin wasn't going to get fixed. I posted film, I took the time to draw out what I was seeing. All to show why I was saying it, that it wasnt hating. And the funny thing is, that regardless of the personal nature of those weeks and months of crap, both my initial comments were about Bears players, not anyone here. That's what still astounds me. But like I said, I will just follow the speed of traffic. If we want to be put-downy and sarcastic, I'm all for it - it's fun. Just why does everyone get so weird when i join in? If you guys knew me in real life, you'd never expect be to be anyone's sub. So if that's the role you guys need for me here, you're gonna be disappointed. That's all. Talk nice, I'm nice, Play a little rough, which is cool, then me too. That's all pretty simple. Remember, my career was in the record biz in NYC for decades. It wasn't all please and thank you I promise you. I can play sarcastic and all that - it's a natural New Yorker skill. It's just that I grew up in the midwest, and I left NYC for Az because people are less meatheads here. I like that. I like having neighbors that go to church, served in the army or are in bike gangs. Everyone here has some kind of politeness or mutual respect. I dig that. The way Men should treat other Men. Just got tired of it in NYC, but I was never seen as the loser or the cuck in my real life. So I think it's funny that people misread my ability to write as some kind of weakness LOL Anyway, I just respond in kind. If we talk Bears, I'm good. I don't need to start any of that crap - I've already started and finished a lifetime of it in the NYC dirty world of the record business. Some absolutely rough people there. But I was always respected and a leader. It was fun.

thanks so VERY much for your input! I just want to be cool like everyone else. Love YOUR nonsense too! Thanks VERY much for this fun interaction! This post brought to you by double standards

Good at least now I know the speed of traffic around here, and no one will mind if I am just the same

noooooo really?

oh Im not! I just want to be fun and cool just like everyone else! This post brought to you by symmetry!

you and Pix would both look fabulous in high heels and a dress! WOW this is fun! Im gonna do it more, I see why you guys do it! Feels powerful! This post brought to you by Diet Coke.

Yeah Poles hugged Fields. I said GMs should keep some distance so they do whats best for the team, even if it isnt best for the player. Poles reportedly traded Fields for less than he could have gotten to be nice to Fields. At least he was in control of himself enough not to KEEP Fields. Hugging a guy when you're bringing him on board, or winning a superbowl is very different than hugging him in the locker room 3 months before youre gonna trade him. Funny you guys say Im a hater, but you dont ever see me doing stuff like you and Pix do. Funny that. Maybe I oughtta just do the same, I cant imagine how the heads would explode. So what do we want to do, keep the discussion to the Bears, or go after each other? I mean I just want to play too. Which do you prefer?

great find, 50 - thanks for posting this!

same here

I get that. Every year I see more when I watch tape. Going all the way back to knowing nothing, and being amazed at what John Madden would explain in games. Football education has come a long way, and football strategy continues to evolve too so every year there is new stuff to learn.

JJ is a winner, and mentally sharp as a QB for sure. I have him #3 behind Maye, but Im not sure Im right about that. JJ is definitely underrated while Jayden Daniels is overrated

no, I said that just because he is an ex QB doesnt mean he is right. That doesnt mean I think he is always wrong either. I think the tape speaks for itself. Caleb is processing and getting the ball out fast and right. I think this is every pass from the game too, or close to it. Not cherry picked. But I am not saying Caleb is good because Daniels says so. I am saying he is good because of the tape, and here is Daniels (who I know some here WILL listen to) highlighting how great I can see Caleb playing with my own eyes. Does that make sense?

^5

we are 12 games back of GB in the all time rivalry. 95 - 107. Caleb needs to get us back on top of that.

and the way he makes circles in the pocket, to not only evade rushers, but reattach his blocker to the free defender. It's really incredible. Very few QBs at any level have been able to do this. It does look just like Rodgers. To me the actual release looks like Marino. And the reading and processing, understanding, moving safeties - he gets it. The narratives on him that came from TTT stats are just obviously not true. This is a VERY exciting time for the Bears.

Here's Chase Daniels today, finally on the Williams train. he says everything I've been saying about him, and this film absolutely rebuts the idea that Caleb holds the ball too long, or doesnt make fast reads or work his progressions. You see film like this and you KNOW what youve got. And as an added bonus, he actually meshes on RPO plays, not just lean a little toward the RB. It's all so polished. THIS is why they say he is special, generational, whatever.

no kidding, what a mistake.

some good names there, but i feel like our current roster is better!