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for sure. If Poles had a great pass rushing prospect or 3T still on the board, he'd have taken him. Remember with the NIL money keeping underclassmen in college, this draft was a very shallow one. You can think of a 4th round pick in this year as being like a 6th or 7th in another year. That's part of why we traded our lower picks away too. Also, our roster is getting full, so it's going to be harder for any young lower round pick to make the team anyway.

No offense scores every time they have the ball, and since we have a great defense, a good punter just gives Caleb better field position when we get the ball back. Having a great defense and a great punter is like having Dennis Rodman on the rebounds. Sure Jordan scores a lot, but when he misses, Rodman gets the board and gives him another better shot. It's a multiplier.

Velus absolutely has speed, but i think we've seen from Poles that hes looking for football players and not just attributes. I dont see Velus doing much for us, but id be glad to be wrong cuz he sure is fast.

thats how it feels to me too, but maybe we'll get lucky and someone will get cut, or they'll really need Larry Borom lol

oh for sure, we should see lots of evidence of it. I dunno if it will all be put together into a full NFL QB right away, but we should see lots of it immediately.

I agree, for his pocket manipulation skills and his big play hunting and gunslinger mentality. He has some Mahomes in him too when plays break down. I cant wait to see it all happen. I really hope luck is with him, and it all works out like it should.

I expect this too, but doubtful it will be a blue chip player, at least until the trade deadline in the middle of the season

exactly right - this draft and next years draft are both aiming at the 2025 season, one where our stud QB isnt a rookie, and where we can fill the final missing pieces including another pass rusher. The window for us to seriously contend for a superbowl opens in 2025, although I wouldnt put a ceiling on what this team is capable of this year either. But its a PLAN for 2025.

and the DE from Utah went in the next pick too. The intel was pretty good this year.

yeah, I was just screwing around, he is definitely a LT

LOL I dont know anything about him, but that he was a 30 visit guy, so obviously Poles liked what he saw. Cool.

no i understood you. I have seen dozens of examples where he read the defense, made a quick decision and threw the ball like Bagent did in rhythm. He also has that fast throwing motion, but yes he makes fast decisions successfully a LOT of time. Ive seen at least 50 examples over maybe 3 or 4 games of him doing it. It is in his skill set. He held the ball much longer on other plays where WRs werent open, or he was big play hunting. He never won a game in which he put up fewer than 30 points at USC (last year or both not sure), so obviously they had no defense and he was doing his Brett Favre impression. Oh an to the protection, he has this Aaron Rodgers thing hwere when a defender breaks through the line, he circles around to redirect the defender back to the blocker he beat. It's pretty cool to watch, and youre like "he looks like Rodgers there" So often he did have a lot of time to throw by his own making.

so the DE from Utah that people were writing about is available, so is Van Pran and the OT from Yale that we brought in for a 30 visit. So Im happy Poles has those choices, now we will see what he does. Whatever it is, im with it.

that would be great

because half of them didnt even watch the film and are just repeating a narrative in an echo chamber. I have personally seen dozens of plays where he got the ball out as fast as anyone ever with my own eyes. He has a ridiculously fast and compact Marino-esque throwing motion too.

I dont know who is best at all, but i will be happy if Poles has the choice of several names Ive heard of, even if he doesnt take any of them! If C Van Pran, the OT from Yale and DE Eliss are available that will make me happy, and then i trust Poles to do the right thing, whatever that is.

There will be someone who can help us available for sure.

Van Pran is still on the board too?

for EVERYONE

The Lions know a lot of passing is coming their way. NFC North is 100% a passing division now. Our secondary is only eclipsed in talent by our WR room LOL Those battles are going to look great in camp, and Williams will get a lot of live looks against a quality secondary. Hopefully he can throw some of his rookie interceptions in camp.

I dont even know if its a good point. LOL I read their names in some articles, but maybe the 30 visit has some value I dunno.

DE Jonah Eliss from Utah and OT Kiran Amegadjie from Yale are both still on the board and had been connected to the Bears in articles. the OT was a 30 visit too. For what that's worth.

Given how Kmet has been coming on, I've sort of been sleeping on our new TE Everett. Here are two plays, out of context, totally cherry picked I'm sure. The first one shows that he is smart and his style of understanding what's going to happen next on a broken play should make him a great option for Williams when regular plays break down. It feels like our offense isn't just a collection of players with talent, but a system where each player's strengths are a multiplier with the other players strengths too. Finally the Bears are building an identity the way the Packers have for years. When you're a scout or a young player for the Packers (and some other teams too) you can look at tape of the last 5 guys that played your position, and they'd be doing pretty much the same techniques and plays as you're being asked to do. They will have similar strengths and weaknesses, so you know how a player fits into the scheme, whether youre scouting him, or you are the player learning your place. Not every player is a blue chip first rounder, so your roster will generally have guys that are incomplete players. They are good at one thing and less good at another. But if youre in a system that asks you to play to your strengths, then it's a lot easier. Finally we are building a system of Bears football. The result of that will speak for decades. Long past when all the current players are retired. If you build an identity, then the 3 next coaches will know exactly how to use the players the GM got them, and the scouts will know exactly what to look for.

It seems the future plan is to have Moore and Odunze. Allen was a piece of insurance against not getting a WR in the draft, and a clear move to be sure that they give Williams weapons. The way it all worked out, Allen ends up a luxury for this year, he'll teach Odunze and maybe even Moore a thing or two about breaks in routes. We may well not bring him back next year. But for this year at least, we have a ridiculous 3 man roster at WR. It's completely unfair to defenses. Williams has to be thrilled. And so am I!

Well said. I agree with it all. I did hear in the post draft presser with Poles (and he said it twice!) that they had to talk him out of trading UP for Odunze. Awesome.