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I think Banks would be a much better option at 10 than any of the other 3.

George Pickens is an elite mouth, not an elite athlete.

We'll disagree. I think his physical talent is special. The mental side I haven't seen yet. He's still young and if that light goes on he'll be unstoppable.

These clips of Campbell are not an anomaly because I've found plenty of them. However, I'd be very happy if someone like NE drafted Campbell ahead of us. If we're going to add a LT it'll be Membou or Banks. Both have questions around their fit at LT. The only way for us to truly get insight into the Bears draft board as well as team belief on Braxton/Kiran is if Jeanty, Campbell, Membou, Banks, and I'll add DT Nolen are all available at 10. I think one of Membou or Campbell go before 10. Our entire draft pivots off the LT question.

Warren is a good football player but he's not worth a top 10 pick. He is nothing like Brock Bowers in the open field. Most drafts have a TE with similar skills that can be found late 1st or in 2nd round. IMO he's part of the scouting if we trade back quite a bit maybe to around 20. Laporta was a 2nd Rd pick.

Dexter had far less help next to him than Carter last season. I’d like to see what he can do with a legit starter next to him. I view Billings as a good depth rotation player.

Despite the depth of the draft 15-50 there are still legit blue chip players in this draft. Those are your real difference makers on game day if you can get one. Mason Graham is better than Kenneth Grant if for no other reason because he has better endurance and you'll get more snaps out of him on game day, especially into the 4th quarter. We're sitting at 10 and there aren't 10 blue chips in this draft but someone is going to take a non-blue chip QB ahead of us. There is usually another surprise too...ala Penix last year. Who the true blue chips are is always open for debate. One thing was clear last year: We had Rome ranked as one of them and were very happy when he fell to us. We need to see if we can get an elite talent but if we go with the trade down so someone else can get that elite talent the compensation should be set accordingly.

Membou is #1 on Kyle Long's ranking. Banks #2. Just interesting to get his perspective on players. FWIW he's iffy on Campbell.

I can see the merit behind CLE wanting to get Sanders late in the 1st Rd. Why would they trade so high all the way to #10 when they likely just need to get ahead of the Steelers who sit at 21? Plus there's no way I'd want to trade back that far. My ideal trade target is Dallas at 12 because they want to ensure they get Jeanty. I want an extra top 100 pick. Using Rich Hill trade chart: swapping 10 with 12 is 25pts. DAL 76 pick is worth 61pts. We must cover the gap of 36pts which is mostly done by swapping picks in Rds 2 and then giving them our 5th Rd pick. 39 to 44 = 18pts. 148 = 13pts That's just 31pts in exchange so it's 5pts in our favor but for the best RB talent since Saquon, Jerry takes the deal. Worst case we toss in a 6th next year to top it off. CHI gets: 12, 41, 44, 72, and 76 DAL gets: 10, 39, and 148. Now I have 5 picks in the top 100 and with Dal taking Jeanty and just SF between us and our first pick we know with very high confidence who remains on the board when we pick. I just scanned 6 mocks on NFL.com and most have SF drafting defense at 11 (edge or LB) or Will Campbell/Membou to fix LG.

Not as much of a project as you might think at first glance. Seems every NFL team has their eye on him. 1min mark

32 teams searching the entire world and spending millions for big men who can play LT well. With all that effort and money they have landed on a very select group who can do the job. Almost everyone in that group just happens to have long arms. That’s not a statistical aberration. At least 33% of the teams are searching for a better LT. If teams could get similar performance from short arm players you can bet they’d do that. Of course there are occasional statistical outliers. Betting your 10th pick that Campbell is that outlier is risky now because we just fixed the IOL. What is your fallback plan if he fails at LT?

There is a clear difference from the top 3 DTs and the next tier. It shows up very clearly in the advanced analytics. Adam Mason did a good job highlighting this on his YouTube channel. When I can get to my computer I’ll provide screenshots and a link if anyone is interested. For now I’ll just say when looking at things like pass rush pressure rate. Tackle depth etc. Mason Graham and Kenneth Grant are 1 and 3. Walter Nolen is 2nd. But they are all very close. The next best DT has a significant drop in every category but again there are several DTs clustered together in that similar performance group. Mason Graham is still the best DT but the fact he benefited from being next to Grant and Vice versa makes me think Nolen might be closer to him than initially thought.

Yes awesome draft BS is the correct statement. Which team drafting behind us is going to take Sanders ahead of the Steelers? 11. SF Purdy 12. Dal Prescott 13. Miami Tua? Doubtful I wouldn't say Sanders is an upgrade but if health issues are a concern they could pull the trigger. That's doubtful as their most likely playoff scenario near term rides on Tua's arm not a rookie. Playoffs save jobs. 14. Indy. Richardson nobody gives up on that talent for Sanders 15. ATL. Just put themselves in QB contract hell but have their future on the roster 16. AZ. Murray isn't going anywhere 17. Cin. 18. SEA. Just invested in Darnold as "the man" even though he looked like crap in the playoff game (I was there ) 19. Tampa Very happy with Baker 20. Den. Year 2 with Bo 21. PITT. If Sanders hits 10 he's theirs at 21. I would laugh if they end up with Sanders because I think that just continues their QB misfortune for many more years. In reality their fall-back option if they don't sign Rodgers is Kirk Cousins who wants a trade after the draft. Steelers are hanging onto $33mil in cap space for a reason. But I'd say that also indicates they don't want to draft a QB because regardless of trading up or staying put. They could put most of that money $15-20mil to good use elsewhere on the roster. 22 and beyond are all playoff teams set with QBs. IMO this was just click bait for Bears fans and media pundits with no logical basis whatsoever.

Take the kid from William and Mary. In fact he may end up a 2nd rd pick. He has all the tools. What I saw on film last night he already is we’ll set as a run blocker. Pass pro is good but that’s poor competition. Definitely needs a year of seasoning. If you grab him and let him and Kirian compete for LT next year with the loser the backup I think we’ll be fine.

Edmunds and Edwards. There’s no reason for Johnson to think he has to get all of the roster fixed this year. If you look at the two year horizon then BPA becomes more likely at LB should someone they really like fall to say Rd 3.

Simmons couldn’t do anything but wiggle around at the pro day. He’s out of the first round for me. That’s not out of the first for all teams per se. I just see more value for the Bears with so many other options in the first.

He refused to be timed in drills. He was already off my list at 10. Now he’s further back. Whatever that means I’ll figure it out later. Definitely not top 20 for me. I sure hope Jerry Jones loves him.

I’m seeing more mock drafts with the Bears selecting a DT at 10. As much as LT would be nice I haven’t seen one yet worth drafting over a likely Pro Bowl DT. Despite the depth in this draft there is a significant drop off after the top 3 DTs. Whereas DE sees a drop immediately after Carter. The DE you get at 20 won’t be much different from the one you can get at 39 or 41 albeit with varying athletic traits.

I live in this message board every day. My wife is very clear that I am not a sane person for following the Bears as I do. I’m not here because everyone says the normal boring stuff. I’m here for the debate. I don’t mean to offend anyone. Regardless I still think it’s funny that it only took all of us three weeks to begin discussing what we needed to do to trade away the All Pro guard we just got. I say that as a fan who was happy we got Shane Waldron last year I’m not without clarity on exactly where my football acumen lies I’ll be back for more tomorrow.

I've already been saying we should draft Nolen at 10 so I can't call him my sleeper pick. For me he's the ideal pick, with Kenneth Grant the backup choice. One thing about the stats of Graham vs. Nolen.... Graham lined up next to Grant. Nolen had some very good players aligned with him as well but not a top 20 pick. For my "let's fire Poles" pick: Shemar Stewart. Classic looks like Tarzan plays like Jane choice.

Only in Chicago can we go from "we've needed a Pro Bowl OG for years"... to 3 weeks later.... we can trade our All Pro OG this year because we've trained his replacement in 6 mo. It's all theoretically possible but I think my odds of winning the lottery and buying the team are better than the odds of this team building a rookie into a Pro Bowl OG by wk 8. I'm hoping Poles prefers to keep good Oline depth for an entire season, and maybe even into the playoffs, over having a 4th Rd pick.

I'm fine looking elsewhere for help too.

I wouldn't be surprised to see Membou be the first Oline off the board. It's all a roll of the dice this year for first Oline drafted, probably the most unclear it's been for some time. I'm already seeing some mocks with him in the top 10.

We simply have no clue what the new coaching staff thinks of Bates.

The number one value I want this year is seeing Caleb Williams stay on his feet. Two we are not a good team especially not on offense. I don’t really view us as being in a position to trade away any depth. I too was ok keeping Tev on short deal while we drafted his replacement. Sadly, nobody ever offered me Thuney for next years 4th in those discussions. the Bears are not going after big FAs next year. Keeping Braxton as a depth piece this year can still net a comp pick down the road albeit delayed gratification.