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He has to get good value too. Other teams know he wants more picks so he'll get some low-ball offers. Just say no. I'm less concerned about getting more picks than I am with getting at least 2 and potentially 3 good core starters. I not convinced trading back for 4 picks in the top 100 makes that more likely than having 3 in the top 75. It is easy to fill out depth via FA any given year.

It all depends on the player rankings and sometimes in these systems you don't even know what list or lists they are using. Plus it seems clear sites are using some random generator for some of the picks likely based on their pre-defined needs list. If you want people to keep coming back to your site you have to show them something different. Nonetheless, every year NFL teams still manage to surprise everyone with their picks even in the 1st round which is why I find it to be must-see TV.

I agree and don't understand the concept behind this comp pick.

Like I said it all depends on how badly they want to win this year or next. That division is so tough now it’s not unrealistic for them to miss the playoffs depending on injuries. Kelsey is 33 how many more seasons will he play? Do they follow the Rams all-in approach or draft and hope for the best near term and focus more on the long term?

This is pure speculation but the logic behind this deal makes sense from the Chiefs perspective if they have their sites set on a Superbowl in 2022. Proposal: Chiefs get Quinn. Bears get pick 96. (not good enough IMO) https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2955188-5-trades-nfl-teams-should-try-to-execute-before-the-2022-draft I see the Chiefs with 12 picks (albeit 4 in Rd 7). While the draft is a good one for edge rushers those who are ready to contribute as a rookie will be gone well before the end of Rd 1. Poles has a good idea of their urgency in finding a pass rusher, and that has only increased while watching the offseason trades in their division. To get one of the top 4 edge rushers KC has to be in the top 15 picks. To get there KC has to package at least one of their 1st Rd picks with a 2nd Rd pick or more. To get into the top 10 they have to give up both 1st Rd picks. Regardless, no matter where you are in the draft you can't find anyone as ready to contribute against the run and pass as much as Quinn in 2022. The Chiefs have some $18mil in cap room now but that will get eaten up by the large rookie pool, or they reduce the draft picks. They are also stuck with Frank Clark's contract. They'd need the Bears to take some of the cost of Quinn's deal but doing so just increases his draft pick value. If I were Poles I'd be asking pretty firm for pick 30. That's 620pts which could be a bit much but if KC won't take that, then to get one of the top 4 edge rushers it will cost them both 1st Rd picks and at least 1000pts. Even to get Ojabo they will likely have to move up to somewhere around 20 at a cost of 850pts. That's equivalent to a 1st and 2nd Rd pick. If Poles can't get the 1st Rd pick move back to 50 and 94 at 524pts and a floor of 50/121 in the 4th Rd at a cost of 452pts. https://www.drafttek.com/NFL-Trade-Value-Chart.asp?RequestTeam=kc Draft day brings a different sense of urgency. It'll be interesting to see if any team has interest in Quinn.

That'll do. It's getting very difficult to have a good sense of where Raimann ranks on boards. I think early on he was generally a 5th Rd pick and now he's showing up often in the 2nd and I've seen some a couple people take him late 1st Rd.

I had forgotten about Ourlads, they are pretty good. Salyer looks good for OG.

Draft boards are being finalized and I figured I'd start linking to some of them. I'm interested in the top talent of course but what I like the most about draft time is finding day 3 gems. As usual there's a ton of variation in draft boards, here is Gil Brandt's and his WR rankings are quite a bit lower from what most people have. Which one does Poles' match up with best? So far Poles has kept the same scouting org but he's also publicly stated how impressed he was with their work. I think it's reasonable to assume we'll see similar traits drafted on day 3 that brought us players like Trevis Gipson and Darnell Mooney. Of course we also know that Eberflus' scheme on D needs different talent from what we've had. Just avoid the WTF moments of the Phil Emery era. https://www.nfl.com/news/gil-brandt-s-hot-100-ranking-top-prospects-in-2022-nfl-draft-class

Good article and he mentions the Bears. https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2955183-2022-nfl-draft-the-most-overlooked-player-at-every-position and might as well add this one: https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2955151-ranking-the-10-biggest-potential-steals-of-the-2022-nfl-draft

I feel like two good trades down, good meaning not dropping back too far, is the sweet spot. Using PFN on occasion someone like KC will offer up a trade from 48 to 50 and give me 121. I still prefer having two top 50 picks as that always seems to get two good starters for us. I don't know if that trade is realistic but I'd take it every time. Then I traded 71 with the Eagles for 83 and 124 just to see who would still be available. I like the players we got in exchange. I think everyone one of the players will either start or see playing time except for Jurgens who needs a lot of development, and Rose depending on who else we bring in in FA. On draft day I don't think Petit-Frere drops that far because he can play a premium position, those guys usually move up not down the board. 39 Kenyon Green OG 50 George Pickens WR 83 Nicholas Petit-Frere OT 121 Cade Otton TE 124 Cam Jurgens OC 148 Nick Cross S. 150 Haskell Garrett DT. 186 Mike Rose LB (You see him a lot in my mocks at our last pick because 1) we need depth at LB. 2) I watch a lot of Iowa St games and 3) he's just one of those gritty instinctual football players I like having in the box. We need someone at SLB for run downs and he can provide some pass coverage between the numbers. Other than that he's going to hustle to the ball on every play. What you saw out of Kwiatkoski around the LOS is what you'll get out of Rose).

He's not the most dynamic runner either but if we want TE depth a 4th Rd pick or even a 5th among players like Ruckert, Kolar, and others should be good enough to add depth.

No on the Dotson question. I don't think he's a difficult player to land in any draft. At 5'11". he ran a 4.43 forty but more disappointing is his 3-cone time of 7.28. At his size you want to see something below 7s indicating an ability to separate especially In contrast Jaquan Brisker S ran 6.91 at the pro day and that means Dotson had a chance to improve on his Combine 3-cone time but refused it. Then there is the issue of need. Mooney is going to stay outside. We have Pringle to work the slot so our biggest gap is at the X. That isn't what Dotson offers. He'd have to challenge Pringle for reps out of the slot and again, that 3-cone lack of quickness means that's not likely his best home. He probably needs to find a place where he can fill the same role Mooney does. I feel the same about Moore in that he's not an exceptional athlete. However, I listen to some of the WR experts talking about his route running being excellent and that puts him ahead of Dotson. It also means he's likely to find success earlier on the field either in the slot or outside. Again, he doesn't really fit the mold of an X. That brings me to either Pickens or Pierce. I prefer Pickens just based on his receiving ability, able to adjust to the ball anywhere, but that all depends on his health. OTOH I really like having an X who can get deep with Pierce having because that forces the safeties to worry about both sides of the field. He only ran a 4.41 so he doesn't have exceptional speed and he'll have to learn better route running especially on the shorter routes. That's the same issue for both Pickens and Pierce.

Oddly in a couple mocks lately I've ended up taking Dulcich TE out of UCLA in the 3rd Rd. For most of the the draft cycle I've really left that position alone but starting thinking lately that as receiving needs go there is no rule that says it has to be a WR. In fact, adding a WR and a receiving TE (along with having an OC who knows how to use them) might be the best thing for Fields. I've always admired what Baltimore did for Lamar Jackson and how they helped him with the 3 TE sets. Not to say we'd do that but definitely having 2 good TEs can be an asset if used correctly, and maybe even that occasional 3rd TE set with Horsted. Dulcich reminds me of Deguara who I wanted a couple years back as late day 3 pick. Deguara ended up in Green Bay and hasn't contributed much, just 245yds and 2 TDs last year. Dulcich, in game tape, seems a bit better and might be a bit more agile in his cuts. He's a former WR so maybe he just runs better routes because he seems to get better separation even from DBs, and they don't like tackling him. Neither were good blockers in college. Out of curiosity I checked the combine stats for both and they are fairly matched. The question then is what does Getsy think will help Fields the most (2 young WR or 1 WR 1 receiving TE) and what did he what did he think about how Deguara fit into what they were doing in GB. Or do they think Horsted can fill that receiving TE role for us? Assuming we already have a WR drafted, I'd rather use a 3rd Rd pick on another Oline or even Dline than a TE but I'm not totally against the idea if they feel it will help Fields. Dulcich isn't in the mold of Kelce, so there may very well be a TE later in the draft who can fill this role just as well for less draft capital. https://www.nfl.com/prospects/josiah-deguara/32004445-4770-3400-9fe2-3240dc1a9dab https://www.nfl.com/prospects/greg-dulcich/32004455-4c26-9681-69d0-93e30ab63839

I've never seen Green drop to 48. He seems like a solid late 1st/early 2nd Rd prospect. Given the lack of FA attention to the OT position I have to believe there is some level of comfort with our existing players holding the line there if needed. That doesn't mean it won't get addressed either late here in FA or in the draft but considering Poles was aggressive on 3-tech and OC I have to think he viewed them as critical needs worth addressing aggressively.

I'd be happy with this. What little I can see of Kendrick he doesn't appear to be a 1st Rd talent but regardless at 186 I'm ok if we take a chance. Based on draft profiles it appears he's a better fit for a zone heavy scheme vs. man since he struggles with deep speed but his quickness is a plus. I suspect a young GM with such a heavy rebuild is likely to stay away from big character risks in his first draft.

The way this fell it was an odd day to draft at PFN but it was time to build the trenches: 39. Devonte Wyatt. DT Georgia. (With him and Kenyon Green on the board it was a tough decision but Wyatt generally has higher grades and it's much easier to find good interior Oline prospects later than a 3-tech) 48. Kenyon Green. OG Texas A&M. (he's still available? Thank you!) 71. Christian Watson. WR North Dakota State. ( I definitely don't see this happening but if it did, this would be the moment the title of this thread would occur) 148. Cameron Jurgens. OC Nebraska. (1 to 2 years to take over at C from Patrick) 150. John Ridgeway. DT Arkansas (Akiem Hicks style player. I still expect to see Quinn traded for either 1st Rd pick or multiple later rd picks BUT if we still have him our Dline would be good with Wyatt and Ridgeway in the rotation) 186. Kellen Diesch. OT Arizona State. (needs work on his technique but has the tools desired for the new offense. At worst becomes a backup swing OT but you always need one of those and at this point in the draft that's reasonable value. Gives us a year to assess his upside as a starter. Also means we stay with Jenkins at LT and Borom at RT but I suspect we would sign a FA LT. If we do sign one, we might see a trade of Whitehair and put Green at LG with Borom at RG. Otherwise Borom would be backup IOL and IMO that's a good option compared to where we've been in years past.).

I like your list except for Tolbert. He seems a bit pedestrian to me. Playing against lesser competition I often see DBs in stride with him down the field. Tolbert will make the receiving room better than what we had last year but In the end I don't see much difference between him and Dazz. I like Moore too but we have Pringle who is likely to be our slot WR. However, Pringle is on a 1yr deal and if he plays well just re-sign him and keep Moore for depth and Getsy hopefully is better at finding ways to get the ball to different WRs than Nagy was. If we go 4 wide having Moore and Pringle zig zagging around the middle of the field is a nice option. With what little knowledge I have I've tried to focus on someone who can handle the X spot for us. Based on some scouting reports that might even be a stretch for Pickens. With some time to develop I think he'll be able to handle it. I like Doubs on day 3 but he'll need time to develop. edit: Looking back at Dazz coming out Tolbert definitely has the edge.

I really like George Pickens. Like everyone else, I have quite a few WRs I like in this draft. Yet in terms of the ability to go get the ball, where ever it is, I don't think there is a more QB friendly receiver in this draft. He has quick hands and despite tight coverage it's usually one touch and done. I know he's got some learning to do on his routes but that's why we pay our coaches a lot of money. He also doesn't have elite athleticism, at least as he ran at the combine which brings him down a notch from other WRs. He's already visited with the Chiefs and Packers so it seems interest in him is building, perhaps even toward late 1st early 2nd Rd. A lot of what he does on these catches you can't coach. Yes it's highlights but go watch Olave, Williamson, Wilson, London, Watson, Pierce, etc. and you won't see a lot of this stuff at the catch point. I need a doctor to tell me his medical checks are all good.

Essentially we replaced Iggy or one of the other backup LB as a special teamer.

Then we still need more competition at NB.

Here's some film breakdown on Pierce against ND and Alabama.

I think I prefer Cruikshank over Young. He seems to be more athletic but we have two experienced NB DBs on 1yr deals fighting for a starting role and new contract. Let's see what happens. Griffin seems like a good depth player. 1yr $2.26mil seems like a lot for a guy with 27 rec last year but Poles clearly is willing to pay more for his depth pieces this year so he more flexibility next year. He just waited until 3rd tier in FA to do that.

On most of my mocks lately I've been going with some combination of OT/WR/OG (sometimes a 3-tech DT falls to us) with the order being determined by best available at each pick. I prefer that over using 2 of 3 day 2 picks on WR. If we add another rookie WR I prefer to use a late day 3 pick to fill out the room or else a cheap FA vet who is already proven good on special teams.

Playing around at PFN ended up with this after one trade back at 39. I'd be happy with this result. 44.Devonte Wyatt DT Georgia 48.Sean Rhyan OG UCLA 75.John Metchie III WR Alabama 99.Nicholas Petit-Frere OT Ohio State 148.Alontae Taylor CB Tennessee 150.Tyquan Thornton WR Baylor 206. Mike Rose LB Iowa State

I agree that Mathis doesn’t fit the new scheme. I feel the same about Armour-Davis. Metchie in the 3rd I like a lot. Robison is too talented to last until the 5th Rd.