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I don't even know where that 3-cone time came from. It doesn't appear he ran that drill at the combine since the time is not listed on their site. All I know is a lot of elite athletes on an NFL field have a lot of trouble catching him. That's good enough for me. Cohen will never be a feature back, nor will Kareem Hunt be a feature back. Kareem Hunt may be a starter (for now) but I expect he'll always split his time in the backfield with someone who is faster. Hunt had a lot of big games early on, against some poor defense too, but after defenses adjusted he settled in as a good RB. That's what he'll be in the NFL.

We often under estimate Howard's quickness in part because he's a big man.

I put him as competition for the 53rd player on the roster, Where did you see HoF in that?

I think he provides serious competition for FB Michael Burton and TE Braunecker. He can run some routes and catch which MBurton is not that adept at. How well he can block will be the biggest question but he has the size for it. In any case that blocking role is a bit less of a preference as we move to more of a spread offense. Nall's versatility means he could play in the H-back role which slots him in to backup TE Trey Burton. In fact he was recruited to Oregon St. to play the H-back role but injuries pushed him to fill in at RB. Trey is 6'3" and 235lbs. Nall 6'2" and 232lbs. Burton's draft profile listed him at 224lbs so he's bulked up since entering the NFL. Comparing combine numbers: 40yd: Nall 4.58s TBurton 4.62s Braun 4.73s MBurton 4.74s 3-cone: Nall 6.95s, TBurton 7.14s Braun 6.90s MBurton 7.2s 20yd shuttle: Nall 4.16s, TBurton 4.32s Braun 4.2s MBurton 4.34s Clearly he fits the athletic profile of the role we signed Trey Burton to fill, and probably is a little more agile. We just spent $6mil/yr on Trey Burton and as a UDFA wondering who has a role he fits, that had to get Nall's attention. He is not nearly as quick footed as Howard but if he's the FB/4th RB/H-back backup then you've got some real value at the bottom of the roster. He should be able to handle special teams coverage as well.

There ya' go. Let's put our 20 year old rookie in a spot where he has help to learn the NFL game. We can give him some time, like a full year, to build his strength too before asking him to hold up against NTs like Goldman. We're kidding ourselves if we don't think Goldman or HIcks wouldn't push him straight back into the QB. In the meantime we can take advantage of his athletic ability as a pulling guard and his quickness will matchup well against 3-techs. I can't believe he's just 20 years old. He started at Iowa, an Oline factory, as a true freshman. If he ends up our starting center this year he'll be ok but expect him to get moved around and need some help like Whitehair did his rookie year. The only thing I can find on his knee injury is that he had a torn meniscus which needed surgery. I suspect that was a bad tear that had to be sewn back into place instead of a minor cleanup. Then it seems he had, on the same knee, either another minor meniscus issue or just a mild sprain because he was back playing after a week or two.

I agree with the need for depth at Safety, we need one of the backups to show some promise this year. As far as Amos goes, last year I felt having Eddie Jackson on the field for deep coverage would help him and I believe it did. Amos was able to focus more on the short to intermediate area, more of what's in front of him, where he's at his best. This year I believe adding Roquan Smith is another piece that improves safety play, and really the DBs across the board. Between Smith, Trevathan, and Floyd we have 3 LBs who can cover a lot of space, not mention staying with TEs or RBs in coverage. The DBs can focus a bit longer on their assignments. If we lose a player (we will), that surrounding talent will help mask issues when we have some backups on the field. If we get a surprise in pass rush help (RRH, Bullard, Fitts) that takes it up a notch as well. It might even be Lynch who surprises us. He sounded pretty motivated to work with Fangio again. And if two of these players can get consistent pass rush we're in a very good spot defensively. The depth issue at OT is why I think we kept Sims around. We have Sims and Shaheen to help with inline blocking, if desired, with Shaheen also being a good receiving option. Every team has roster deficiencies at certain spots, this is ours on offense. We have enough weapons, really diverse weapons, and the coaches who I believe will know how to use them to attack a defense differently each week. It will come down to how quickly Trubisky can learn it all and if he can improve his footwork. He's already been working on his mechanics this offseason so there's reason for optimism there. Starting next week we have about a month of OTAs to kick off the process. I already have my tickets for the Cards game.

He shouldn't be upset at all because he still has a job. I want nothing to do with him though.

There is some Bears related info in here but overall the article, for those who actively follow the draft, is interesting. Gruden is starting his downward spiral earlier than in past coaching jobs. http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2773921-matt-millers-scouting-notebook-how-the-draft-really-went-down-what-it-means

It is well done because he managed to capture the storied history of the franchise in very different but still motivational ways.

Fangio was smiling when Roquan Smith was drafted. When have we ever seen him smiling before?

Like drafting McGlinchey at #9 overall? Lynch was the darling of the draft last year. This year he made a QB who has played 7 games the highest paid in the game. He's followed that with drafting McGlinchey, then Dante Pettis in the 2nd Rd. I watched Pettis quite a bit the last couple years and I like him, figured he'd be one of the 3rd Rd group of WRs. I'm really glad they left Anthony Miller on the board because I think he has better quickness in/out of his cuts. Pettis does have a knack for returning kicks.

As long as he can play around mid-230's he should be ok. If he can't hold that weight his durability could be a big problem.

That list is getting shorter each offseason. IMO Lynch, Fitts, Floyd, and Acho has the potential to be a good group of OLBs. I wouldn't mind bringing in Houston for competition, or backup insurance, through camp.

Right now Roquan is listed on the Bears site as 6'1" 225lbs. I hope that weight is a typo.

Where are these rumors that Iggy, at about 230lbs, is moving to OLB? I'm not sure we ask him to add much weight because Pace values his speed, just based on his comments after the draft. I've seen one reporter speculate that drafting Iggy means we could move Kwiatkoski to OLB. I think that's a horrible fit. Kwit has little length to play against OT or TE blocks. Without that attribute he also doesn't have much quick twitch movement and is not very agile changing directions. At ILB some of that gets covered up because he can often play moving forward but it's also why he's not that good in coverage. Yet I still love the way he plays the game. With Iggy on board we simply have some very good depth at ILB. I do agree pass rush help must come from Bullard or RRH. My money is on RRH.

His quickness in his cuts is similar to A. Brown. Ultimately that is what creates separation far more often than straight line speed. In reflecting on this pick a bit I suspect this is the end of Kevin White. The Bears had a minicamp and Nagy got to see White running routes, which he's never shown he's good at, and a week later we trade into the 2nd Rd to draft a WR. This was done after we reportedly tried to trade back into the 1st Rd to draft Calvin Ridley. The decision to make a trade for a WR and give up one of next years picks in exchange was made before the draft. I think the goal was to get 3 picks in the first 3 Rds, keeping his blue chance a blue chip prospect at #8, finding a good Oline prospect in Rd 2, and the WR, and Pace did that. They just needed to find a partner and the right prospect in the area they could trade up into. Kevin White likely sticks around until camp but I won't be surprised to see Pace trade him for anything he can get before the season starts.

I like our draft much better too.

Keeping up with our division rivals here is who they drafted, and my opinions on that. Detroit 1/20 C Ragnow good player, moves well, not that strong (yet) and this seemed early for him to come off the board 2/11 RB Kerryon Johnson he's a good RB but not special in any area, he will definitely help give them a solid running game 3/18 S Tracy Walker NFLDraftScout had him listed as a 5th Rd prospect. NFL.com has his graded as a career backup potential, again Rd 5-6 4/14 DE Da'shawn Hand ranked as 2/3rd Rd seems to be good value here in the 4th but for his athletic talent he underperformed in college 5/16 G Tyrell Crosby again good value here for a player with starter potential 7/19 RB Nick Bawden looks like a FB or h-back prospect Summary... not much to worry about from my perspective. Johnson will give them a more solid running game but if Ragnow starts he'll struggle with Goldman up front. ----------------------------------------------------- Green Bay 1/18 CB Jaire Alexander good prospect, on the smaller side for CBs but he's physical. Easy replacement for Randall 2/13 CB Josh Jackson WTF? Didn't they draft Kevin King last year? Jackson I didn't like for us because I view him as more of a zone CB. While everyone talked about his INTs they come from him facing the QB and reading his eyes. He does not match up well in press coverage nor does he have good speed. Who gets on the field and where among King, Alexander, and Jackson? 3/24 LB Oren Burks graded as Rd 4/5 talent yet NFL.com gives them a good score for taking them in Rd 3. That's just BS reporters buying the hype. NFLDraftScout had as 3rd grade, he's got the athleticism for the ILB role, lacks instincts. 4/33 WR J'mon Moore good WR graded to go in this area of the draft. He has talent to be a starter but character issues that might keep him from achieving that. 5/1 OL Cole Madison likely nothing more than a career backup, decent value for the late round pick 5/35 P JK Scott yes, they used a 5th Rd pick on a punter 5/37 Wr Marquez Valdes-Scantling I liked him as a very late draft pick and he graded out as 6/7th Rd. He's a big fast athlete who lacks shiftiness as a WR. Seems early for him. 6/33 WR Eq St Brown Why wouldn't you take him in Rd 4, or Rd 5? Easily the best of the 3 WRs they drafted. 7/14 DE James Looney 7/21 LS Hunter Bradley this is what happens when the league hands out too many compensatory draft picks 7/30 Edge Kendall Donnerson he's just 6'2" but elite athlete who is more workout warrior than football player. Worthy project in Rd 7. Summary I liked Alexander and he'll help them this season. I hope Josh Jackson wins the job on the other side because I think Nagy will exploit him early and often with Gabriel. No matter taking two CBs early when they needed pass rush help was good news for us. Nor does Burks have the ability to help in that role early on. Throwing 3 darts at WR seems excessive especially in the order they were taken. --------------------------------------- Minnesota 1/30 CB Mike Hughes I liked Hughes and at this point was good value. He's got some issues to work on but he'll make their secondary even better. 2/30 OT Brian O'neill If my memory serves me right this is the OT who got pushed all over the field at the Senior Bowl. I really hope he's a starter for them this season. 4/2 DE Jalyn Holmes big body DE with little pass rush ability but he has some potential there. 5/20 TE Tyler Conklin Smaller side for TEs, and somewhat slow. He'll be a contributor for them but never a guy you worry about. 5/30 K Daniel Carlson another division rival uses a draft pick on a kicker 6/39 G Colby Gossett We don't see many Oline prospects drafted out of App State but he's got the size to play in the NFL but is not that nimble. Good value for a guy who could develop into a solid backup. 6/44 Edge Ade Aruna They got Ade, who I liked at this point in the draft. At least I'll get to see how he develops over the next few years. 7/7 LB Devante Downs Summary... outside of Hughes, I don't see much improvement this year from O'Neill and Holmes.

Kylie Fitts. Never even heard of him until we drafted him but after watching film for a few games I think he easily has 2nd/3rd Rd talent. At a minimum he's a good rotational player but I believe he has the talent to develop into a starter at OLB. Can he stay healthy? We'll see but the foot injury is far enough in the past for that to be completely behind him. The other shoulder sprains and such that hindered his play last year weren't big issues that will affect him at all long term much less this offseason. He's not the springy Leonard Floyd who will cover RBs out of the backfield but as the counter to him he's a much better fit at OLB than either of Willie Young or Houston. He can convert speed to power but has enough burst, (1.68 10yd split) and bend (6.88 3-cone ) to get around the edge and all that shows up in games. FWIW he's faster, quicker, and more agile than Aldon Smith but he doesn't have the same arm length. I have to consider value for this "favorite draft pick" question and for a 6th Rd pick I'm really happy with this one. https://www.nfl.com/prospects/kylie-fitts?id=32462018-0002-5598-079b-d547fbe41b3d http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/aldon-smith?id=2495487 The NFL standard for pass rushers...Von Miller http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/von-miller?id=2495202 and just for grins see how he compares to 1st Rd pick Marcus Davenport athletically.. https://www.nfl.com/prospects/marcus-davenport?id=32462018-0002-5598-1759-f09cd314cad6

I'm not saying I or anyone else is as good as Fangio, or Pace, but I agree with Jason's point that teams make bad picks all the time and IMO some are so obvious even the fans can see them the day of the draft. Phil Emery took that DT who jumped out of the pool but had very little production, even in his highlight films. He took Brock Vereen, a safety who even I could see didn't play physical in college, and he really didn't standout athletically either. That certainly didn't change in the NFL. He drafted one DB who was injured so often he had no highlight film. Others that were obvious IMO to fans: Jets Christian Hackenberg who couldn't even throw accurately at the Combine with nobody in his face. Jake Locker, who was never accurate in college at 8th overall. I'll state right now that I think Cleveland taking Denzel Ward #4 overall was big mistake that will be more obvious in 3 years when we see the careers of the players drafted afterward, including Roquan Smith. Bradley Chubb alone will make it obvious in the first 4 games. As a bit of a hobby I've been kicking this draft stuff with y'all for about a decade or more. I've learned some things about what to look for from everyone's comments, and after seeing how players transition to the NFL. That includes learning from Angelo's and Emery's mistakes, as well as other teams (i.e. Cards Robert Nkemdiche), and at the top of the list my mistakes. I thought Will Sutton and Kadeem Carey would both be more productive in the NFL as rotational players. That honeymoon ended quickly. I learned from that because with Sutton being short he didn't have the length needed to get off blocks in the NFL, nor did he have enough quickness/strength to get around them. While I loved watching him run the ball, Carey just didn't have enough speed to be a starter, and as a backup he couldn't really contribute much on special teams. That depth matters a lot when injuries hit a team. 10-15 years ago it was hard for fans to really scout unless you watched a lot of college football. We did have highlight videos but those really don't give a good impression of overall skills and effort of a player. These days there is a cottage industry of film cut ups and player evaluations all over Youtube. It's not hard to see the good and bad plays, or how a player might fit certain schemes and not others. In this aspect,.on the field performance, I think these days fans who are doing research can have a pretty good idea of a lot of players' abilities. Get down to Day 3 prospects and it's harder to find that game film but overall I don't think fans are "guessing" as much these days. We don't know the character of the players and we don't have the medical reports. We also don't necessarily have those things about our own players (i.e. Cam Meredith) so we can't really know the team's future plans. We also don't know some things like the college coaching and what players were asked to do. We can somewhat understand under-performing players (Lorenzo Carter) who were coached by Mel Tucker, yet even in that environment Roquan Smith shined. How will Smith do under Fangio? Here is where I'm fine to defer to Pace and Fangio. I liked Tremaine Edmunds over Roquan Smith. Both are very good players with somewhat different skillsets. I have no doubt it was character, leadership, and football knowledge that made Smith standout to Fangio and Pace. Vic spent a full day with Smith going over film and talking defense, probably some individual workout stuff too. I assume he did the same with Edmunds. I'll be watching how the careers of both players unfold over the next few years.

Not sure I'd go top 10. There are a ton of new pieces learning a new scheme (except for Burton) with a 2nd year QB. Let's give them some time to settle into the new offense but I think we will see some games with more offense than we've seen in years. Big plays will show up early and often.

Love bringing in CB Michael Joseph. He plays physical at times, which I like, but he's got a lot to learn and will have to work hard to improve his functional strength for the NFL. Long term he has potential to be a contributor on the roster. Put Kevin Tolliver in the same sentence. Former 5-star recruit out of high school. Maybe one of them figures it out. RB Ryan Nall I like as well. I could see him as an h-back if we want someone in that role. I think he'd be more versatile than Burton is at FB. Or he's a backup RB biding his time on the practice squad.

I just see some surprises today. I think all the picks are good players but there isn't an Eddie Jackson type with year one starter potential. Iggy looks like a lesser version of Roquan with good special teams potential early in his career. I'd say Kwit sticks as the slow ILB on the roster and we say goodbye to Timu and the often-out-of-position Anderson. Might be some starter potential down the road. Seeing how things played out in Rd 4 I'd have put money down that we take either Josh Sweat or Dorance Armstrong or even Shaqem Griffin with this pick. Bilal Nichols fits the DE profile physically but I don't see much more than depth player potential in him. I doubt he even makes the 53-man roster this year. He was was mis-cast as a NT in that defense last year but likely was their best option there. He has a lot of work to do. OLB Kylie Fitts has the upside to be a solid rotation player at OLB this year and if he can stay healthy I think he could develop into a starter years down the road. This game he shows a little of everything.

Yes, I've seen this. He does need more lower body strength but this is not the 280 something Grasu coming out of college. He's over 300lbs and there's plenty of tape of him pushing DTs around. He just needs to use his quickness to win the leverage battle, but he usually does that. I suspect the Bears prefer him at OG this season to protect him from having to anchor against the big NTs he'd face at OC. Whitehair struggled with that quite a bit his first year. Handling some of the smaller quicker 3-4 DEs, or 3- techniques at LG should not be much of an issue. He's also good at pulling to get outside and seal the edge, or hitting LBs at the second level. I'm a little crazy because back when the Combine was underway I was watching the Olinemen performing their drills. They all do the little shuffling drills, side to side, kick step back into pass pro, etc. Most are big slow dudes, even the ones who have the quickness to play LT. Then Daniels ran the drills and it was night and day. This is one very athletic big man. He's just 20 years old and should build a more solid base to go with the athletic moves in the next year or two. Given the type of zone blocking we want he should become an ideal fit once he gains more strength. I never expected him to be there because everything I read had him going in the first round. Instead the Lions took Ragnow at #20 overall, the Bengals took Price right behind that. Of the three Price seemed the most stout as a blocker, with Ragnow the weakest. We're going to get to watch Ragnow and Daniels for several years to compare draft value. Now about the concerns with his knee, that I know nothing about. Pace said he checked out medically.

He's not as big as Meredith but the way he can run routes with quickness in his cuts is similar. He's bigger than I thought. I didn't watch much film on him before that draft but in the short draft highlights I can see his quickness to separate. Adding him in the mix with all the other talent we have is going to be a very good thing. I can see him becoming Trubisky's favorite target. That's in part because of the attention Robinson will draw, and Gabriel, and Cohen when he's out there. Miller is going to reliably get open and quickly, and we are going to be very multiple in the ways we can attack a defense. Our defense is going to know how different this offense is very early in camp.