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Legacy BS and they should just get rid of it. All teams in the league have now adapted and it's a free market. If you want the player pay the player. Plus getting rid of all these free picks will make the UDFA market after the draft a little more interesting.

Legacy BS and they should just get rid of it. All teams in the league have now adapted and it's a free market. If you want the player pay the player. Plus getting rid of all these free picks will make the UDFA market after the draft a little more interesting.

If I had to go there I'd take Ohio State draft and that's mainly because I think the value of Price, Jones, and Hubbard out weighs the similar picks on the other side given our needs. Look at the two Oline prospects and for me I'll protect Trubisky. In exchange of this draft Trubisky gets vet FA WRs which is a much bigger help than two rookies on the roster. Despite all the hype on Ward I figure the early CBs are an even swap.

I was never that interested in Landry. Is he better than who we put on the field last year? Absolutely, but not worth the money, and now draft pick, it will take to sign him. Let somebody else make the mistake.

I understand this is the time of disinformation. If their intention is to understand or help drive a trade down option then they are also driving teams (i.e. Buffalo) to know they may need to trade ahead of #11 to get their QB. Either way they are helping us. How much help we won't know until draft day. Could end up being negligible.

Tre'Quan Smith. (and yes I'm scouting WR's today) Looks like he has potential to be a solid #2 in the future. If he's there in the 4th Rd ... http://draftscout.tsxfiles.com/position-rankings/

IMO another reason he's gone is that he just doesn't move very well. He's often grabbing and pulling on defenders but somehow gets away with it. Getting older means that all gets slower and easier for officials to see. If we're going to run a ZBS in this new offense (again) then we need Olinemen who can move well enough to get in position. Some of those blocks are not easy to execute but Sitton IMO was too often behind the DT he was supposed to get in front of.

Good find. I like him a lot. He doesn't look to have elite speed but he's fast enough. His quickness and cuts at speed are ridiculous, somewhat similar to Cohen. Love the hands too with some tough catches in traffic and knows how to go get the ball. If he can return kicks he'd be a good addition as someone who can trade off snaps with Cohen. Or just go spread offense with one on each side. Richie James This will give a better indication of what he'll look like on an NFL field. It's 2016 but I don't think he's not faster in 2017, probably was stronger. http://draftbreakdown.com/2017/07/14/richie-james/

WR Marquez Valdez-Scantling Good speed, but better quickness. Can make catches through contact which bodes well for a guy who will have some learning to do at the next level. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTbL5h1xDZY Have to credit Steve Smith with throwing his name out there: http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300000091...xcited-to-watch

For those concerned about the lack of trade down options this is interesting. This can be disinformation to help motivate someone to trade up for Mayfield (Buffalo?). Then again they also traded away Ajayi mid-season for reasons unknown. I don't think anybody can predict where this organization is headed right now. http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/...re-his-pro-day/

I'm going to go ahead and say that before they get anything done with Fuller the Bears will sign Amukamara to modest 3 yr deal with most of the guaranteed money coming in year one. The Fuller situation is too chaotic for Pace to predict and if he sits back and waits on that to play out he could lose out on a lot of options. Plus, once you start getting up in the big money there are other CBs like Trumaine Johnson who might be worth spending just a bit more on. I'd be happy with Amukamara and Johnson as our starters with a talented but raw 4th Rd pick on board for the future. Stability in the coaching ranks will help this year in terms of signing FA too.

I get the feeling we'll be trying to bring in Fulton and slide Whitehair out to LG.

It's just a site that gives me a quick way to see where players rank, and not really my favorite at that. Their rankings are off by quite a bit at times and a month ago were (IMO) worthless. I do not like their mocks much at all other than to see what round a player is selected. There were players I really like (i.e Edmunds) who was showing as Rd 2 a few weeks ago. As we get closer to the draft, and in this case the Combine, they are starting to match most common projections. In the interest of saving some time I used their list to scan some names between ~40-75 to see who I liked on there for this scenario's pick #64. Regardless, at this time there are draft projections all over the place that I don't agree with, including Mike Mayock's and others. I'm still not on board with the rest of the world on Minkah Fitzpatrick as the #3 talent in this draft (where Draftek and many have him). Patrick Peterson went #5 overall and he's an elite athlete, with the size to truly match up with anyone anywhere on the field. Fitzpatrick, for all his talents isn't close to that kind of player. I'm not that high on Roquan Smith either because I think he too has limitations that I don't want in a top 10 prospect. That's why I like the process. I try to list my source for rankings if I make a choice like this unless I'm going outside the conventional wisdom on a player. In that case my source is me. At this point in the draft process with what I've seen on film, I'd be happy with Davis as a late 2nd Rd pick for us. Three weeks ago he was a 4/5th Rd prospect on most boards.

We say this is most drafts but that's talent based on raw comparisons of skills. There is one caveat that must be considered and it is scheme and who fits it and who doesn't. Trading back only to end up with a similarly graded player who doesn't fit what you want to do on the field makes no sense. It is precisely this reason that Pace traded up for Floyd. He had to have him because after that the drop off was huge. Looking back on it I'd say he was right. http://www.nfl.com/draft/history/fulldraft...d=round1#round1 As I said in another thread, in this 2018 draft I believe a player like Christian Kirk carries more value to our new offense than does a player like Sutton. All that means our draft board looks different, maybe much different, than the generic draft boards we find on NFL.com, Drafttek, CBS, Walterfootball, etc. Of course there are always players who fit any scheme and Tremaine Edmunds is one of them.

I keep doing that to his last name too. I have re-read all of my posts to catch myself and correct it.

I agree on those wildcards in Richardson or Wilkerson. I really wonder why Wilkerson fell off so much lately....and here we are: https://www.app.com/story/sports/nfl/jets/2...nger/106065894/ I think Pace completely stays away from Richardson and his off the field issues. If Wilkerson's available this is a potential top tier talent that, if healthy with his mind focused on football again, would completely transform our D. OTOH on a rebuilding team with a new head coach we can't pay a lot of money to someone who will create issues in the locker room. Pace needs to do a lot of homework on this one.

This is what I think will happen. McCarron wouldn't change a teams QB draft intentions if they felt a legit future starter was within their grasp, even in a trade up. Now if you get to the 2nd Rd and especially after that then having McCarron could alter a team's plans a bit.

That's a lot of fun and I'd be very happy with picks 1 through 3. I have seen concerns about Courtland Sutton's ability to separate and that might be why he skipped the Senior Bowl. You would think a player who was not at a top tier school would definitely want to show he belongs in the NFL and can win against the best DBs. Not so with Sutton and the speculation is that he avoided the senior bowl because it could hurt his draft stock. He will be someone to watch closely at the Combine. His film was always ok but lacked that consistency you'd like to see out of a high draft pick but some of that was the offense he was in. That sums up where I'm at right now on Sutton but it could all change as we learn more. In his place I'd just take Kirk at 2-35 because I believe he will be electric in the open field and Nagy will know how to use him. I don't really want to deal with 2 rookies at WR this year because I think it hurts the team in the near term with little long term benefit (vs. just drafting another WR in Rd 2/3 next year). Instead I prefer that we bring in a very good FA WR, and a good FA WR to fill the depth chart. Maybe this year we toss in another rookie from Day 3 if he fits BPA. Using Drafttek rankings at 2-64 I'd take CB Carlton Davis. I like the roster balance picking up future starting players at OG, RT, DE/OLB, WR, and CB.

He's very stiff and won't offer anything at all beyond pass rush. I see him as a quality depth player who can help get some occasional pressure but he won't be nearly as versatile as Acho. Still if Pace decides to remake the entire depth chart and release Young, McPhee (very likely) he could in the mix. I prefer to keep Houston over signing Okafor.

He said he doesn't want to play ILB, or at least that he much prefers being back at safety. At best he's an in-the-box safety so he's still gotta play well in heavy traffic. At this point I'd question if his heart is really into that. I'm not going to say I blame him either because I don't know what he's been through physically/mentally.

I do not but I like that draft as long as the Bears get Edmunds last name right on the draft card.

Let's start with FA since that is what Pace has to do... https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/footbal...m=.361b4ad564b9 Junior Gallete coming off back to back seasons with torn achilles tendons (2015/16) returned in 2017 with a grand total of 3.0 sacks, and 14 tackles. Hard to imagine he has the explosiveness he once had and it would be a big gamble to rely on him. ----------------------------------------------- Trent Murphy looks like he fits Pace's ascending player type until we see that he had a torn ACL last year and was also suspended 4 games for performance enhancing drugs. His draft profile likely fits in the slot where McPhee played for us. More DE than OLB http://www.nfl.com/draft/2014/profiles/tre...rphy?id=2543503 ------------------------------------------------ Aaron Lynch... seems like he might not fit the OLB role but he too had a suspension for drugs of a different type. HIs draft profile does not fit the type of player Pace wants at all: http://www.nfl.com/draft/2014/profiles/aar...ynch?id=2543650 /////WEAKNESSES Classic underachiever. Questionable effort, motor and desire. Leaves production on the field. Does not play with passion and lacks urgency. Goes through the motions //// People change so perhaps he has but that suspension two years ago might indicate otherwise. ------------------------------------------------- Clayborn...definitely just a DE type. Falcons spent the last two drafts finding pass rushing replacements for him. ------------------------------------------------- Will Clark...like a lesser version of Willie Young. Given his all-time high of 4 sacks, and just 2.5 sacks in 2017 I'd rather keep Young and see if we can lower his cap hit a bit. At least we know we have leadership in the locker room with Young. ------------------------------------------------- Among those FA I would guess that Pace targets Trent Murphy. The ACL injury was in preseason so he's healthy enough for doctors to know how well he's healing. It will depend as well on that performance enhancing suspension and what excuse was behind that. All that adds up to a player who might be willing to gamble on himself with a 1yr deal. If Pace thinks that drugs were not the main reason he had 9 sacks in 2016 I could see a 2yr deal similar to what we did for Hicks. Murphy will still be young enough to hit on a big contract if he plays well. ------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------- Draft time... Knowing the question marks here, including Floyd, along with the weak FA class, this will get addressed in Rd 1 or 2. At best we're replacing McPhee/Young question marks with FA Trent Murphy's question marks. I think we stay at #8 and take Edmunds or Davenport.

One former GM doesn't think Davenport gets out of the top 10. Here Casserly has him going at #5 overall, which is very surprising to me. Casserly always has his own strong opinions, sometimes unique to himself, but he also has a lot of contacts around the league. When I see something like this about Davenport it makes me wonder if this is what he's hearing from his contacts, as well as what he sees in him (likely Senior Bowl film). Almost everywhere else I see Davenport talked about more as a 4-3 DE. Davenport and Edmunds are a little different in their strengths/attributes but each could fill a role on our defense. Edmunds being more OLB/ILB versatile, while Davenport fits the McPhee role as OLB and then DE in our 4-man front for our nickel D. I'll be watching the combine closely to see how these two perform in the agility drills. http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300000091...-saquon-barkley

I like this option with Zack Fulton quite a bit. Cut Sitton and backfill OT in Rd 2 or 3 where there are some good options.

Isn't that the problem here? He hasn't established he has the ability to handle playing ILB, in a durable fashion. Now he's happy at safety and coaches are talking about him as a good player there but the same coaches are trying to trade him.