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  1. AZ54

    This

    By definition all potential is uncertain. Signing any player to a contract who has never played in the NFL is purely speculation about their potential, and nothing more. That speculation may be based on facts, but in some cases it may be based on hope (see Phil Emery drafts of players who were injured most of their college career). There is zero evidence Pace had (or now has) that much doubt about Trubisky. His trade up for the player was not done because he had strong doubts about his future. I think the media and their reaction to our draft day trade demonstrated a tremendous amount of doubt. That doubt among the media in itself has nothing to do with Pace. I think the deal for Glennon was all about protecting his young player early in his career so that he could reach his full potential later. You have to protect a tree when it's a sapling. It is obvious Pace never thought Glennon had that much potential to be an NFL starter or he'd have never made the trade for Trubisky. You have a strong draft philosophy regarding year 1 starting caliber players in the first round, especially in the top 10. You disagree with Pace's confidence in the value of the trade up for Trubisky and prefer to minimize your risk early in the draft by taking the higher certainty player. In later rounds you would draft players with more risk/potential. In most positions I agree, that makes sense. IMO there are a few positions on a roster where it takes more time to develop skills needed to perform well at the NFL level and at the top of that list is QB. How much time depends to a great extent on what they were asked to do in college. Part of the problem with proving this theory (play well early)is that teams drafting any player in the top 10 are usually bereft of talent at that position. That makes it easier for them to be a "starter" in week 1. That doesn't mean they are playing at a starter's level of play. Would you have drafted Urlacher with the 9th pick overall? My guess is no because that was a pure potential pick. I wasn't following the draft that closely back then but I'm doubtful I'd have supported that decision. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Urlacher#NFL_Draft "Urlacher struggled to perform consistently in his first professional game, and lost his starting position to Rosevelt Colvin.[20] Jauron left Urlacher on the sidelines during the following week, as the Tampa Bay Buccaneers shut out the Bears, 41–0."
  2. Trubisky showed class as well. I don't want to take away from Glennon's mature approach to his demotion because he deserves credit for handling this well. Read all the articles that are showing up with quotes from Bears' players. You can't help but feel that there's a new leader taking over this team, not just a new starting QB. In the end Glennon's role will have been to help Mitch learn how to be that leader even in tough times. I don't think he was brought here to be more than that. Well that and maybe be a ruse on what position we were drafting in Rd 1. Pace couldn't have pulled off the ruse with Cutler, Hoyer, or even Josh McCown.
  3. I think it will take him at least another year to get to the weight and strength he needs to excel in pass rush. He will get sacks for us this year, at least as many as he had last year. We've played the Falcons, Bucs, and Steelers. In two of those games he was largely used in coverage. That won't be the case against the teams we'll see later in the season. One thing he must do is get off the snap quicker. Too often he's the last man moving forward.
  4. AZ54

    Glennon

    Today's game plan made it more clear than ever that Trubisky time is headed our way. They now know Glennon's limitations (severe limitations) and are flat out just staying away from exposing them as much as possible. When they do make a change it will be a surprise because you much prefer the opponent game plans for 8 in the box to stop the run all day. Since winning the division is what matters most for making the playoffs this will likely happen against either the Packers or Vikings. I'm not sure they'll rock the boat after a big win this week but if the Packers game isn't going well for Glennon I have to think Trubisky plays in the 2nd half. We can't lose that game big without pulling out all stops.
  5. AZ54

    Glennon

    Two weeks in a row Glennon throws an INT on a short route to a TE. In each case the TE, last week Sims this week Miller, cuts out to the right and the ball is thrown behind him to the defender.
  6. If we can get our passing game going beyond 10 yards from the LOS then we will like Cohen in the slot a great deal. I don't see this happening until Trubisky takes over. Even if Wheaton can get open deep Glennon is too inaccurate to make consistent plays. Defenses will risk giving up one big play in a game to smother our running game and short passing game.
  7. When questioned directly Loggains this week refused to say if Trubisky was running the scout team or was throwing to the 1st team. "Glennon is our starter." For now...
  8. AZ54

    What if...

    I go two plays and it's clear we just evaluate passing totally differently. 5. Horrible read and like Glennon it was all he read. 6. No doubting his elusiveness and running ability. Stupid, and bad inaccurate throw off his back foot into tight coverage in the red zone. In the future I hope he learns to just throw that one away but this is what we saw on his college tape too. 7. Again, I see inaccurate throw to an open WR Miller who has to extend out so far to make the catch he loses his footing. 8. I agree, good pocket awareness and he stays in to make the pass. He has two safety valves underneath and takes one for a good gain. It is hard to know what he had downfield if anything but this was a positive play.
  9. AZ54

    What if...

    I'm curious how many highlights were there of a QB who threw for 125 yds and a 5.2ypc average? We'll just agree to disagree about what successful QB play is because I don't see a guy coming off his first read very often at all. I see a lot of inaccurate throws too and quite a few bad reads where he was very lucky he wasn't picked off. Quite often they give him a roll out with simple high low reads. We'll be doing some of the same things with Trubisky when he starts because he'll be overwhelmed at times and we'll want to simplify things for him to help get him into a comfort zone.
  10. AZ54

    What if...

    You want me to elaborate on someone who can make one read and run? In that sense he's better than Glennon who can just make one read. Here's one article on his week 1 performance that "earned" him the starting job. http://www.espn.com/blog/houston-texans/po...tart-him-week-2 He has a whopping 4.8ypc but did manage to throw for 125 yards in Week 2. That compares to cement shoes Glennon's 6.5ypc career average and 301 yards last week. Glennon has one more TD and one more INT than Watson. Watson is throwing to Deandre Hopkins, Will Fuller 1st Rd pick, and Braxton Miller. Even though you want a comparison to Trubisky I used Glennon's numbers because he's horrible and that offers some perspective on Watson's performance as a starter. Which is what matters most. --- I don't believe either Watson or Kizer are ready to play in the NFL. I don't believe Trubisky is either but he's getting closer. None of this changes the fact I still believe Trubisky is the best QB among them, and has a good outlook long term. For all my anxiety waiting to see Glennon get benched they are doing the right thing by making sure the rookie has his playbook down, at least enough to command the huddle within the weekly game plan. He's also learning how defenses attack our offense without getting hit, and where there are plays to be made when they blitz. Beyond that, I think the throwing and pocket presence aspects of being a QB Trubisky has down far better than Glennon. We aren't very far from seeing the rookie take over.
  11. I agree but that doesn't mean he knows the plays as well. Bellamy can work from multiple positions on the field. When Meredith eventually was brought up to the 53 his rookie year it was because he had become comfortable with much of the playbook as well.
  12. AZ54

    Glennon

    Clips of Glennon's turnovers are showing up and after watching things he was even worse than I first thought. First thought was that he's terrible. https://www.windycitygridiron.com/2017/9/19...nfl-week-2-2017 https://duckduckgo.com/?q=glennon+sack+fumb...iai=DgX8pE9pzKM I've seen blame on the Oline for the sack fumble but in reality he has a hot read in Wright wide open. When they bring 6 you should throw into the coverage gap behind the blitz. People talked about Massie giving up edge pressure but Noah Spence ran 10 yards upfield to get around Massie. On the INT when throwing to Bellamy after the game Glennon said Bellamy had turned his defender around. Just watching the game live we all knew that was never truth. The DB sat on the route, an obvious read for any QB, and if you are throwing there it has to be high outside over the DB. Then you look at the film and see both Jordan Howard and Wright wide open across the middle with room to run. Neither was close to the 1st down marker but Bellamy was also 2 yards short of it. We got rid of Cutler because of reads like this, and the subsequent INT. I should give Jay more credit though because he would have at least tried to get the ball over the top of the defender instead of putting it into his chest. The first INT we've already spoken about Shaheen being left alone 5 yards outside of Sims. The guy covering Shaheen leaves him immediately after the snap. The Buccaneers were free to blitz however they wanted because they knew Glennon was only going to his first read. His first read never included the blitz even though it was obvious what was going on at the LOS before the snap. The worst part of this is that I have to watch this guy again this Sunday.
  13. AZ54

    Some Positives

    http://www.chicagobears.com/multimedia/vid...94-4d17d533faf9
  14. After the Atlanta game was so close the coaching staff (and likely Pace) decided they could shelve Tru for a bit and have him run the scout team. If a change is headed our way, not necessarily this week, then Trubisky will get reps with the starters this week instead of the scout team.
  15. AZ54

    Some Positives

    Much focus is put on the Glennon show but there were a couple good things in the Tampa game. Eddie Jackson...still a rookie and still learning but he looks like a long term starter for us. On more than one occasion he ended up arriving at the WR with the ball. Given our CBs were Cooper and Fuller I was worried about DeSean Jackson having a big day. That didn't happen and I think Jackson was a big part of that. He made a great TFL in the 2nd half. Overall he finished as our leading tackler. Kyle Fuller... through two games against two very good offenses Fuller has been good. Not great but good, and I'm one who wanted him off the team. He's been good enough that he may stay on the field when Amukamara returns. Tanner Gentry... just his first game in but looked like he belongs.
  16. AZ54

    What if...

    I'm sticking with Trubisky. I liked Kizer at one point but his throws into the dirt, which continued at the combine, and continue in the NFL, plus his interviews convinced me he doesn't have the ability to win long term. Watson I never liked. He's a smart guy but he's clearly overwhelmed this early in the season. For the 2018 draft from what I've seen so far among the supposedly wonderful 2018 QBs I only like Darnold. He has some limitations but I think he'll be a good QB in the NFL. Rosen is a statue and makes the occasional Cutleresque throw. The only thing I see from Josh Allen is that he needed Tanner Gentry more than Gentry needed him. Nonetheless he'll be a 1st Rd pick.
  17. After listening to Fox's press conference today it is obvious a QB switch is going to happen. The only question for Fox is when will they deem Trubisky ready.
  18. The battle for QBs in the 2018 draft will be interesting. We figure to at least have a top 10 draft pick. Teams needing QBs: Jacksonville Browns (the Kizer pick could put them in the worst spot of not being sure or certain they have their future QB while a future franchise QB is available at their pick) Jets Buffalo Arizona (Palmer likely to retire) Pittsburgh (Ben likely to retire) SF There will be 7 teams in serious need of a QB, regardless of where Kirk Cousins ends up. There are likely 3 top QB talents. On the outside with aging QBs or questions at QB are the Giants, Bengals, and New Orleans. Probably all 3 will consider a QB at some point in the draft.
  19. How do we know how bad our WR corps is when we have Glennon throwing to these guys? His INT on the pass to Sims was not just a bad read it was also a pass that was quite a bit behind Sims. On a 5 yd route! On top of that Shaheen was wide open 5 yards to the right of Sims. I don't want to debate the quality of our WRs but you can reword it to ask what vet WR is really going to change what we see from Glennon? Keep the draft picks.
  20. Each week it has become more and more obvious that signing Glennon was never anything more than a smokescreen from a GM who was stuck drafting at #3 behind two franchises who also needed a QB. This offense ran better with Hoyer and Cutler but keeping either as our starter was telling the world we were going into the draft looking for a QB. I was in favor of drafting Trubisky early in the offseason. After seeing Glennon in two games, plus zero competence in the preseason, I find it impossible to believe that the same talent evaluator Pace, who went after Tru aggressively and, we now know, very secretly, also decided that Glennon was a better more expensive option to win games than Hoyer, or even Cutler. Pace had access to all of Glennon's NFL game film he saw these massive flaws in his game. Everyone knew Trubisky would need time but how much was the question. Pace and Fox had to be hoping the Glennon charade would last longer than Week 2. Throughout the draft process Trubisky proved he is capable of keeping his mouth shut and not giving away secrets. The Steelers game, an AFC opponent, might not be the right time for Trubisky but the Packers game is. A win there, or even a promising performance, would change the dynamic in the locker room. This roster, even the defense, needs that in a bad way. Conventional wisdom says they won't put Trubisky out there on a short week but you know that also means the Packers have less time to prepare for him. In any case Fox will never say Trubisky is going to play before he actually gets in a game. Ragone should pull Trubisky into some closed door sessions this week to run through some Packers game film.
  21. Exactly. No elite #1 WR was needed.
  22. I don't believe I have ever seen anyone play QB without moving their feet at all once they drop back. Glennon might as well be wearing cement shoes. Once he drops back his feet are set, they won't move even if he changes to throw to another side, which is partly why he can't work his progression back to the other side of the field. He's telegraphing to DBs where he's going with his set. When he finally completes his calculation that a receiver is open (usually a second ago) he throws without even lifting up his front foot and stepping forward. The Trubisky watch is no longer a question of if, just a matter of when. Next week fans at home will be extremely vocal demanding Trubisky. I can live through a 3 turnover game from the rookie knowing he's learning on the fly, but he'll also open up a lot more for the rest of the players on offense.
  23. I believe 3rd year players are eligible for the practice squad but it depends on how many games they played in. If they think the injuries are serious enough to warrant a move then why not. I don't get the sense that Howard's shoulder is a big concern and the staff seems to like Mizzell. Maybe we'll find out why today.
  24. That's true. We'll see how many Hall of Fame WRs Brady takes with him. Other than Randy Moss at the end of his career the list of his WRs non-Patriots fans could recite is very short. Elite QBs get by with decent/good WRs year after year. Who has Drew Brees been throwing to these last 5 years when he's averaged 5,000 yards per season?
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