AZ54

Edmunds and Edwards. There’s no reason for Johnson to think he has to get all of the roster fixed this year. If you look at the two year horizon then BPA becomes more likely at LB should someone they really like fall to say Rd 3.

Simmons couldn’t do anything but wiggle around at the pro day. He’s out of the first round for me. That’s not out of the first for all teams per se. I just see more value for the Bears with so many other options in the first.

He refused to be timed in drills. He was already off my list at 10. Now he’s further back. Whatever that means I’ll figure it out later. Definitely not top 20 for me. I sure hope Jerry Jones loves him.

I’m seeing more mock drafts with the Bears selecting a DT at 10. As much as LT would be nice I haven’t seen one yet worth drafting over a likely Pro Bowl DT. Despite the depth in this draft there is a significant drop off after the top 3 DTs. Whereas DE sees a drop immediately after Carter. The DE you get at 20 won’t be much different from the one you can get at 39 or 41 albeit with varying athletic traits.

I live in this message board every day. My wife is very clear that I am not a sane person for following the Bears as I do. I’m not here because everyone says the normal boring stuff. I’m here for the debate. I don’t mean to offend anyone. Regardless I still think it’s funny that it only took all of us three weeks to begin discussing what we needed to do to trade away the All Pro guard we just got. I say that as a fan who was happy we got Shane Waldron last year I’m not without clarity on exactly where my football acumen lies I’ll be back for more tomorrow.

I've already been saying we should draft Nolen at 10 so I can't call him my sleeper pick. For me he's the ideal pick, with Kenneth Grant the backup choice. One thing about the stats of Graham vs. Nolen.... Graham lined up next to Grant. Nolen had some very good players aligned with him as well but not a top 20 pick. For my "let's fire Poles" pick: Shemar Stewart. Classic looks like Tarzan plays like Jane choice.

Only in Chicago can we go from "we've needed a Pro Bowl OG for years"... to 3 weeks later.... we can trade our All Pro OG this year because we've trained his replacement in 6 mo. It's all theoretically possible but I think my odds of winning the lottery and buying the team are better than the odds of this team building a rookie into a Pro Bowl OG by wk 8. I'm hoping Poles prefers to keep good Oline depth for an entire season, and maybe even into the playoffs, over having a 4th Rd pick.

I'm fine looking elsewhere for help too.

I wouldn't be surprised to see Membou be the first Oline off the board. It's all a roll of the dice this year for first Oline drafted, probably the most unclear it's been for some time. I'm already seeing some mocks with him in the top 10.

We simply have no clue what the new coaching staff thinks of Bates.

The number one value I want this year is seeing Caleb Williams stay on his feet. Two we are not a good team especially not on offense. I don’t really view us as being in a position to trade away any depth. I too was ok keeping Tev on short deal while we drafted his replacement. Sadly, nobody ever offered me Thuney for next years 4th in those discussions. the Bears are not going after big FAs next year. Keeping Braxton as a depth piece this year can still net a comp pick down the road albeit delayed gratification.

I agree we need a good WR3. Neither FA WR so far fits the need.

Really DBDB which returner were you Looking to get?

Yeah, I'm still frustrated by Brisker's injuries because I really liked his talent and energy on the field. His health is top priority.

Pickens might well show something in training camp but I'm not at all optimistic. If for no other reason because he almost never flashed on a positive play. Tyler Scott is still what he was in college, a semi-fast in-a-straight-line WR. He's not that quick in his cuts IMO and still struggles with his release at times. He also does not have great hands. That said even if we end up cutting him I expect he'll stick around the NFL for a few more years. He offers just enough to be someone's 5th WR/returner. I don't really think OZ is an upgrade per se I just think he fits better what Ben Johnson wants on his routes (ala Amon Ra).

That's because they can't run fast and play well in coverage.

Yeah he looks good returning kicks. Speed and some agility. His highlights from Baltimore showed a WR who can contribute a little bit on offense mostly gadget plays. Buh Bye Tyler Scott.

Not one DT? We might be witnessing the best predraft smokescreen ever. Edit: now I see DT was buried at the end all the way down at 7%

Didn’t know that

Yes. Let me add I’ve watched Georgia vs Texas and Alabama. I see too many plays where he’s just blocked. There’s no counter move. Whereas someone like Scourton just keeps battling.

He appears to be lazy on some plays. Or maybe going through the motions is a better description. I wonder what happens when he has $20 million to spend?

Given the difference from where we are today compared to last July. That curse may have been a blessing. Still want nothing to do with it this year. People act differently around cameras no matter what they say.

We don't need a skinny little ILB, just take the highest graded DT in the draft at 10 (per NFL.com). I did watch some highlights of Jalon Walker plus an entire game against Alabama. I like him, just not at 10 and probably not in the first round at all given our needs. As much as I like his quick twitch around the pocket IMO he's more of an accessory pass rusher. He gets controlled a lot around the LOS. If I'm dropping back to around 20 and I go edge i'd be taking James Pearce Jr. who also has enough athleticism to drop into coverage a bit but offers more at the LOS. If we have the horses up front on the Dline we don't need a 1st Rd ILB behind them to shine.

Except we already have two 2nd Rd picks. Unless you only want him very late 2nd.

Least I heard about Pickens is that he was on his way out the door and Pitt would likely draft his replacement this year. Cut him next year.