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I agree we're more likely to take Verse over Turner as well. Part of that reason though is the lack of depth we've got at DE. Walker isn't bad though on run downs so having elite speed off the edge would be welcome in the mix. Maybe they swing big for the elite pass rush because Turner definitely has a skillset we don't have the on the roster. Ngakoue was never a bend-around-the-hoop type of DE, nor did he have elite quickness, speed, or power. At his age his one-trick pony show wasn't working anymore.

It depends a bit on what you want. If you want the best pass rushing DE for third and long you grab Turner. He still has value as a run defender but not really the guy you want to anchor against the point of attack in the run game. If you want a starting caliber NFL DE for every down you take Verse. He’s a beast who just will not be moved. His bull rush is so effective it’ll give Braxton Jones nightmares about practice. He has enough athleticism to work off that and get sacks. if you were in group one then you might not care much if you trade back and get Latu. The rest are JAGs.

Fields has speed but not a lot of wiggle. Neither does Patterson for that matter. It's guys like Hester that are so damn slippery when they cut without losing speed.

XFL. But I still want to see it with NFL caliber athletes.

I like it. I need to see it in action but this is a positive step forward and very appropriate considering Hester enters the HoF this year. Maybe enough people finally watched his highlights and realized how exciting those plays were and how much they missed them.

Of course it s al rumor and innuendos. Have you got video or a link to that statement from Poles?

Doing more research on the QBs...

This is interesting...and I haven't heard this anywhere else. Now Daniels gets maybe 5% of the press coverage that Caleb Williams does so this stuff doesn't catch fire in the media in the same way. I just find it an odd twist to the rumors now that Daniels is reportedly at the top of their list at #2. Except for the report that came out after J.J. McCarthy's pro day saying they liked him at #2. Musical chairs with the QBs in the media all the way up to draft day.

RAS is overrated as a metric IMO and even as the creator admitted it was never intended to become what it is today. But it is a nice summary and I like to use it as a quick reference for some basic athletic traits to see if it backs up the play on the field. Just as often players have a high RAS but aren't good football players. Dominique Robinson has a 9.73 RAS and still can't find the QB. The two physical traits I think Poles has been the most clear about is OT and DE having long arms. I think that's also a physical trait he likes in DTs but I'm not sure it's as big a deal for IOL, maybe more of a nice to have.

Let ‘'em get mad at me. I don’t care. My opinion is just my opinion. The best way to learn if I’m wrong is to publish it and see what the feedback is. We had a vigorous debate last year about the character of Jalen Carter. I don’t see any reason we shouldn’t be doing the same for our top ten picks this year.

Depends how it's scripted. Lamar Jackson mostly threw between the hashes at his pro day and guess what... that's mostly what he does in the NFL even in the past season. They are just throwing against air with no pressure and they've practiced everything in advance so I doubt that sways anyone much at all.

Money and timeline to wait for him to prove he's the guy. I would say it's more simply that he feels either Williams or Daniels will have his team in a better position in 2025. I leave Maye out because he said the QB coach and maybe OC are going to his pro day but Poles is not. I'm not sure about Flus either. So it definitely feels like a 2 horse race and I have no clue, based on his words and expressions, who is in the lead right now other than the obvious Williams ranking #1 overall. As noted above, I did catch him saying the #9 pick being key for OT, WR, or DE. If he trades back from 9 I don't think he goes far unless the reward is huge.

I see a compilation of really good along with stuff that looks like Justin searching for the big play and ignoring the easy one. On some of those easy plays I think you recognize that he is going through all his reads. Can he play on time and in rhythm? Yes. I have other concerns about how he throws when under pressure in the pocket. Those off angle throws will lead to trouble in the NFL. How does that bad habit translate to the NFL for a shorter QB?

Trey Lance?

With Waldron calling plays this is likely legit interest. He’s not opposed to putting 3 TE in the field.

Sure. I don't normally bet because I usually lose, but maybe we meet up across town and the loser buys the whiskey. I'd say these two QBs are going 1-2 in this draft and Washington has a decent team, as do we in many aspects.

Each of them have some elite traits yes. Slightly different in each one.

At this point Jayden Daniels is QB1 for me. I reviewed some more Drake Maye film today and I agree with the assessment that he's really talented but he needs a year to learn. In terms of QBs ready to play year 1, which is obviously what Poles sees since he traded away Fields, we have 2: Wiliams or Daniels.

Other than his pocket presence I don't even see the greatness on the field. If he were all that then yeah, but he isn't.

The more I see of this kid the more I flat out dislike him as a person. I simply don't care about his football talent and I'd never hire him. I find it hard to believe this is the leader Ryan Poles wants at the podium after a tough loss. So be it. Someone criticized me because I don't like him painting his fingernails. If he wants to be all pretty that's on him but now I find out he was writing F-Utah, and then follows that up with F- ND. Then he's promoting that across social media. He's an utterly classless individual. When asked about the F-ND, he refers to fans as "the sheep" who will never understand what it's like to walk in his shoes. On that he's correct, I won't walk in his shoes because I'd never want to treat people like that. The look on everyone's faces as he completely ignored Keenan Allen and walks right by him was awesome. Someone had to call him over, likely a PR person for USC. I refuse to believe that someone with his "vision on the field" couldn't see that bright orange jacket Allen was wearing as soon as he was walking onto the field. An elite NFL WR took the time to attend your pro day you take the time to find him and thank him. I said a week ago I was out on this kid and now I'm even more so. Give him away to Wash and go draft Maye who also has elite arm talent. I don't even know about Maye's attitude yet as I've barely done any research on him.

Ro need to lighten up a bit and get some more flexibility in those hips. He needs these type of drills.

I don't see how his medicals "lose" him a job if he gives them to every team since he's already said he's giving them to only the teams he's interested in? How does a team with no interest in drafting him sway the medical opinions of those who are interested? You can try to sell me on his arrogance, which is your assessment not mine, and ignoring coaching being a positive trait but it's my own personal dislike of working with people like that which, for this old man, isn't going to change. Regardless of your McMahon example, elite arm talent and arrogance didn't work well for Jay Cutler. Cockiness I'm ok with as I view that as a different trait of competitiveness versus the arrogance of putting one self above others.

For a chance to have a $7mil/yr job I'll give my medicals to every team.

Agreed on the roster building at premium positions. You can find good WRs in Rd 1 to Rd 2 in most drafts.

I like Turner a little more than Verse because of his elite quickness and bend. He reminds me a lot of Von Miller and his speed to chase down plays from the backside is outstanding. Verse is outstanding in his own right but is more of a power rusher. So it might depend on what the team wants. Both are really good against the run but Verse with his power is going to hold up better setting the edge. I saw Kollman's breakdown of Verse last night and he said something that was interesting: If you want to run a defense with 2-high safeties, which he said is done 50% of the time in the league, then you need a stout edge who can force run plays back inside. I like Latu a lot as well, he's very technical with his hands and strong. Draft any of these top 3 and we're a much better defense. After them it is slim pickings in this draft. I don't see Chop having the length needed for our scheme as a run defender. He will likely fit in as an OLB in a 3-5 front. As far as draft day strategy it all depends on how the top 8 go but I still prefer to get the DE over the WR (assuming MHJ and Nabors are gone). We can find a very good WR with a 2nd Rd grade in the 3rd Rd. A WR3, with potential to become a WR2 in the future, is all we need right now to complete the starting group. We could use 4th WR to build depth but with no trade down off #1 those wishlist items are becoming just that....wishes.