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I think I prefer the slow but steady Kyle Adams. He won't get as far but he'll arrive with the football in his possession.

If he can't catch teams are not going to worry about him. I wouldn't. I'd be thinking if they go his way and he catches the ball we'll rally to it and tackle him. Maybe we give up 1 big play but the upside is to double team a guy like Marshall and keep him from having multiple big plays.

I suspect Bushrod was part of an offense that ran a lot more plays than any of 3-and-out offenses the Bears have run the last few seasons.

I was just kidding around...you can't tell me you don't see the annual media love fest with the Cowboys and Jerry Jones.

There are numerous crown of the helmet impacts from defensive players during games. It is the nature of the sport because the athletes are so quick you can't always anticipate exactly where the offensive player is going to be, or what his posture will be when you hit him. Bostic clearly intended to hit with his shoulder and the helmet to helmet impact was offset or glancing and largely due the the WR's body buckling under the stress of the hit. Alshon Jeffrey got hit by a DB's crown of the helmet last night but in his case the DB lost the battle and bounced off him and he ran for another 5-10yds. Fine coming for that hit? Goodell has it so that the only hits that get fined are the ones that hurt offensive players. I don't advocate for the James Harrison head hunting style of play but when a player is clearly not trying to head hunt why fine him? Last night I saw two guys hit each other square on the crown of their helmets. Both bounced off each other, the DB looked a bit dazed as he got up. I don't recall if it was the Bears game or a highlight of another game, but is Goodell going to fine both the RB and DB as per the rules? Or neither because both quickly got up and walked away? I bet neither gets a fine.

Are you crazy? Cowboys fan's know EVERYTHING!!!! Everyone knows Dallas has the best team in the NFL because every year the pundits pick them to win the Superbowl. Plus each year almost every player on their roster is picked for the Pro Bowl during preseason. I'm pretty sure Felix Jones was selected for the Pro Bowl just weeks after the Cowboys drafted him. The two best sounds when watching the Bears game in my favorite sports bar: 1) Bears TD 2) Romo throwing an INT and Cowboy's fans

I think you are reading way too much into one sentence I wrote: "Bennett is not sitting behind Jason Witten and there is no other decent TE on our roster so he is going to be part of every game plan." I'm not putting Bennett in the Pro Bowl just saying he'll have a role in the vast majority of our game plans. I'm a little lost on your 200yd benchmark critique of Bennett as stats showed that has been the limit for your proposed TE Pope. I personally don't think 250yds receiving in a season should be called a benchmark. Which is why I don't think Pope is going to do much for us in the passing game even if he were to end up as our starter. I stated as much in another thread and I am clearly in the minority on that opinion. I'll add one more to your equation because Matt Forte also is ahead of Bennett on the game plan. One more comment: Never ever ever do I want Jay Cutler to be like Tony Romo. Tony provides me much joy each season among my friends who are Cowboys fans.

You could make that argument but you'd have less data to back it up: 2012 Bennett, MartellusACTREC 55YDS 626AVG 11.4TDS 5CHI Pope's best season was 2011 with the Chiefs where he caught 24 passes for 247 yds. He has never had more than 250 yds receiving in a single season, and 5 of his 7 seasons he has failed to even break 200 yds receiving. Bennett has only done it for one season but the fact is he's done what Pope has never done.

Bennett is not sitting behind Jason Witten and there is no other decent TE on our roster so he is going to be part of every game plan.

It's nice to find an NFL player (or any pro athlete) with a sense of humor in front of the media. I get tired of all the standard cliche answers to every question. http://espn.go.com/blog/chicago/bears/ The Bears' first-team offense has run approximately 30 plays in the preseason, hardly a large enough sample size to panic over Bennett not getting the football thrown his way. But when the regular season rolls around, Bennett promises that quarterback Jay Cutler will know when he's open down the field. "He sees me; I'm 6-foot-7, a big black guy running down the middle of the field. He sees me," Bennett said. "I wear white gloves so he can see the white gloves when I wave them like Mickey Mouse. I clap when I'm open. So I do enough to let him know that I'm open when I have to tell him. "Even when I'm not open I tell him I was open."

Who's on the bubble? Who is in? Who is out? Who needs to earn a job in the next 10 days? Training camp is over and there's just a little over a week left before the roster gets cut down so let's start the debate. Among the DBS my biggest question mark is on Brandon Hardin....I haven't seen or heard anything of him so far. Right now I'm thinking he does not make our final roster. He has two games to turn that around and really needs to show up. If he doesn't will Emery cut one of his first draft picks after just one season? There are others at the bottom of the DB depth chart can't say I"ve paid enough attention to see who is worth keeping. WR...I think we keep 6 with Marquess Wilson and Weems at the bottom of the roster. Oline....We know we will have Bushrod, Slauson, Garza, Long, Mills Behind them it's very cloudy but Brown looks to be our backup OG. With his pay cut I now think Webb can stick as a backup OT mainly because I don't think Jonathan Scott will return in time to earn a job and in his career he's been injury prone. Britton looked far too slow to backup LT, we'll see how he does with a solid week at RT but I'm not optimistic for his prospects. That's 7 who is #8?

I like the move and I like the fact Trestman is embracing the history of the franchise and encouraging the players to do the same. A lot of that gets lost on the players in the modern free agency era.

Summed it up nicely right there. The world is full of people who don't make the most of their talent and we see 1st Rd busts all the time so there is no surprise when a 7th Rd pick doesn't "get it". The 49ers and Chiefs just swapped failed 1st Rd picks. Regarding what options Lovie had: He stuck with Webb right to the end gambling that he'd get it and focusing on his defense in his last draft. Most importantly, throughout his tenure Lovie failed to create options for himself. He and Angelo couldn't identify and draft talent for the Oline and Lovie could never put together an offensive coaching staff that could develop it.

I understood your joke there and it would be nice if others could for once laugh a bit even as you were willing to mock yourself.

The coaches are making decisions based on the preseason and training camp. I don't see people on the board putting us in the Superbowl. I just see us talking about who is performing well in preseason games as well as discussing differences we see in the new coaches and scheme. Vanilla schemes allow coaches and fans to evaluate individual performances. While we all know it's early, we can compare what we have seen so far from this rookie class to what we've seen from past rookie classes in training camp and the first two preseason games. That's valid and many of these rookies are playing well enough to show they belong on the field. We haven't seen a lot of that in recent rookie groups in their first couple preseason games, certainly not from this many draft picks. It is also fair to evaluate the decisiveness of the new GM and coaches. Emery, Trestman, and Kromer were not hesitant to trade Carimi despite knowing the need to overhaul the oline. They weren't hanging onto Webb as our starter for too long either without trying another player. I think it's fair to say they weren't sure how Mills would play against a first string defense but one game later after they watched the film they've forced Webb to take a huge pay cut. Change is in the air and it is largely centered around what has been our achilles heel for the last few seasons. I see it happening as a result of positive results so it's not just change for the sake of changing. Long outperformed Brown at RG in game 1 and certainly in game 2. Mills outperformed Webb at RT. It's relevant because all were preseason comparisons. It's a good start and I'm ready to see more.

Without stating it publicly there isn't a much clearer way to state that Mills is our starting RT.

I agree with Edwards being a much better option than Blanchard who hasn't impressed me in the preseason. McCown hasn't impressed either. Neither has Cutler.

Right after I post that I don't know that Edwards would be interested in a 2wk tryout he signs with us: http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap100000023...h-chicago-bears

Blanchard is not on IR and wasn't cut so it's clear this is essentially a two game exhibition for Palmer for the rest of the league. Not sure it mattered much who we picked up but do players like Edwards really want to come in and work for just two weeks?

I'm going to disagree here because it takes some solid brass to put your star QB behind two rookies side-by-side against a team that has a new head coach with plenty of players, 1st stringers, etc. fighting for jobs and starting roles. These days the preseason isn't what it used to be when teams didn't blitz. On top of that we had a QB, RB, and WR learning a totally different offense so hot reads and other blitz pickups were not likely to be done right. off to the OP topic... Yes, I see the difference. I see coaches who aren't afraid to state the facts. Need to learn to play special teams and tackle players? We all hear it. Need to learn to read defenses and not throw INTs? Need to learn to catch the ball in traffic? Whatever it is this coaching staff is articulate in laying it out and that's to the media and they do it in non-degrading way. I have no reason to doubt players are not getting very specific coaching on their weaknesses. We had some of this with Lovie's staff...Marinelli, Toub, Hoke (very happy we kept him and more on that later) but there is a much quicker sense of accountability with the new coaches. Accountability only goes so far unless you have a valid replacement. What is clear is these coaches can develop those replacements. Where I've seen significant improvement: Coach Groh WR Anderson ... is he ready to replace Earl Bennett? Coach Hoke.. Peanut and Jennings hit the Pro Bowl last year for starters but behind them we have CB Frey ...anyone miss Hayden? CB Zach Bowman crazy I know but he is actually covering WRs and defending passes. Didn't see that in his first go-round with the team. Coach Kromer Plenty of threads talking about the rookies. We also have to consider Brown who seems to be developing into a solid backup player and might just be a year away from starting at LG. Coach Phair DE Wootton who is poised to make everyone forget how to spell Idonije DE McClellin who seems to handle blocks better and has definitely improved his pass rush moves. Somebody will point out that I've mentioned a couple of Lovie's guys but yes, that's the point. These coaches were targeted for retention early by the new staff and it points to what they want in their position coaches. I know these coaches can't make every player good and we can use Webb as exhibit #1. Plus it is still early but so far I do think they are better teachers overall and the probability of developing more young players has gone up significantly IMO. What we haven't seen yet is can they game plan and when caught off guard (it will happen in the NFL) can they adapt within the game to what the opponent is doing. OTOH Trestman isn't giving out any clues either so nobody has really seen our offense yet. http://espn.go.com/blog/chicago/bears/post...-marshall-focus "We were on a short field, and we were limited in some of the plays we wanted to call in the first 15. We really limited ourselves," Bears coach Marc Trestman said. "We knew going in that if we had as many red zone opportunities that we had, we were gonna have to run the ball because we didn't go in with the normal number of plays necessary or that we would want to use in a preseason game. So we were left to third-down runs, and doing other things to try to split a defense without exposing or using much of our red zone offense. As I look back, you always want to be able to score touchdowns there. We tried to do it. We really didn't do it with a full complement of plays."

Let's not get ahead of ourselves, after all, he's only started 5 games at OG. I type that with a big smile on my face. When was the last time we had our OG block his man backwards for 5 yards behind the LOS? ...and on a goal line play no less. https://twitter.com/PFF_Sam/status/368417643369213952 I understand that won't always happen but happening sometimes is a heck of a lot better than never, and long way from what we've endured the last few years.

The day we drafted him I said he had my favorite attribute for linebackers: He's violent. He might do to short crossing routes what Jonas Salk did to Polio.

Haven't seen the game yet. Reading the play by play was interesting: Run right, run right, pass right, run right, run right, pass right, run right. For sure the coaches wanted plenty of film on the rookies to evaluate. The fact Cutler force fed BMarsh and Forte could have also been part of the plan. I know I'd like to see everyone involved but how much of our offense are we going to reveal in preseason? I'd love for the Bengals to think all Cutler will do in game 1 is throw to Marshall like last year and then watch as he spreads the ball everywhere else.

I agree on both points. You have to laugh when announcers will say a team has a great run defense because teams only average xxx yards per game yet they forget to mention their pass defense is so bad nobody wastes time trying to run against them.

1) Charles Tillman has played special teams for his entire career so I don't see a problem with the expectation. Of course Tillman isn't always on coverage but he contributes. 2) On top of that, Trestman basically told Wilson he had shown enough as a WR to be on the active roster but could make it a lock if he improved on special teams. That also means, if Wilson were to make the final cut, that the coach would also like to have him active on game days. If I'm looking for job in the NFL I want to make the coaches decision to keep me around an easy one, and the decision to cut Weems an easy one. I'd appreciate his honesty and be working hard to build upon that. 3) The Bears have consistently had one of the top specials teams over Lovie's tenure. I'm glad they continue that emphasis with the new coaches. With one of the league's worst offenses, special teams and defense are how we win games. No reason to change that now as we seemingly prepare to start the season with two rookies as starters on the Oline. Hopefully by mid-season the offense is contributing equally as well. Having said all that I think Earl Bennett is going to make this decision for Trestman. Earl can't get back to practice yet and that's a very troubling sign. I do expect him back before the start of the season and I expect him to contribute but his injury history is not going away. For a guy who makes his $$$ working the inside routes we have to expect he'll take some more hard shots. Keeping Weems as a backup WR is not a good option over Wilson based on what I've seen.