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I don't think we're done with Oline in this draft I still expect a C to be taken on Saturday. It's clear with Lovie out the door we are seeing a sea-change in our roster focus. We have now added 3 Oline this offseason, essentially let our best Oline from last season walk. There is going to be a lot of competition now and we could very well have 4 new starters on our Oline and if Scott beats out Webb we'd have 5. I think Garza could be beaten out by a rookie depending on who we get. If the competition is close for any Oline position, this staff is new they will want their future players on the field learning and improving. Same goes for Emery as he is now tied with Trestman and co.

I would like to think he's our RT of the future but for sure he's starting out at OG. Doesn't say much for what the staff thinks of Carimi IMO.

Kyle Long....early here. Kromer wants someone to mold into a Pro Bowl player.

Pugh goes that early? Wow

49ers had no concerns here. A little desperation to trade up for him iMO but they could afford it.

I'm on a Mac too and java won't work for me either

Dallas and Marinelli will take Floyd

Please not at 20. He can play in the middle but he can't cover in the NFL. The new breed of QBs will run right by him on the edge.

I think I will be

I actually watched 2 or 3 and, if it was on Youtube, I watched a game because that's when you see a lot more of what the player is doing when the play doesn't come toward them or when they get blocked out of the play. But yeah, I have a full time job and it's all I got time for. There are still things you can take away from these such as Klein in the East West Shrine game running downfield in coverage when the pass goes to the underneath route yet he still hustles back 20 yards toward the LOS and is in the frame when the tackle is made. I see the same traits in guys on our defense but does he hustle like that all the time, I have no clue. However, Greene and Klein had recognition within their conference for Defensive Player of the Year so as mid-round picks if you look for production and recognition for excellent performance they have it and actually so does Sio Moore.

I'd be happy with that draft. There are 3 solid future starters at the top and you add depth at the CB position. I can't see Matt Scott lasting until the 6th Rd but if he did and picked him I'd be happy with that. He only played one year at UofA (as a starter) but did some impressive things. He still needs development but I like his potential.

Of the three LBs he lists below (A.J. Klein, Sio Moore, Khaseem Greene) A.J. Klein seems like he should be getting far more press than he's had in the run up to the draft. I'm not saying that just because he's a Cyclone. He has the speed and hands to be effective in coverage (4.66) and the 4 INTs returned for TDs to back it up. Plus I like the way he arrives at the ball carrier. From a quick look he's ranked anywhere from a 3rd Rd pick to 5th Rd but typically isn't on anyone's top 100. If he's there in the 4th and we haven't taken a LB I think he should be on our radar. Klein highlights http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cF0NPhAJOM Klein East West Shrine game Khaseem Greene is Tillman 2.0 as he has the same knack for pulling the ball out. He's not a MLB, as a converted safety he'd fit in the WLB position. His game compares well to Arthur Brown IMO but as a recently converted player would likely need a year to work on his strength and learn the NFL. Green vs. Syracuse Sio Moore is too soft when he tackles, often shying away from head on contact and tackling from the side. Despite that he seems to be good at taking on blocks and shedding to make the tackle. I'm not interested in LBs who don't like to cause pain when they tackle. Moore vs. Rutgers http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/blog/ro...eads-rangs-gang OLB: Sio Moore, Connecticut, 6-1, 245, 4.62 Teams love all-purpose outside linebackers and they don't come much more versatile than Moore, who proved to be a playmaker for the Huskies whether slicing through gaps to collect an eye-popping 43 tackles for loss over his career, rushing the quarterback (16 sacks) or dropping into coverage (four interceptions). Some thought Moore was simply feasting off an aggressive UCONN scheme until he starred at the East-West Shrine Game and Senior Bowl, as well. ILB: A.J. Klein, Iowa State, 6-1, 250, 4.66 Proving bigger and faster than virtually any of the inside linebackers tested this year at the combine, Klein shattered the misconception that his eye-popping production reflected good instincts which masked less-than-ideal athleticism. Of course, scouts should have known this already based on the FBS record he set for linebackers with four touchdowns scored off of interceptions over his career. OLB: Khaseem Greene, Rutgers, 6-1, 241, 4.67 Green rarely is mentioned in the same breath as Manti Te'o, Kevin Minter, Arthur Brown or Alec Ogletree as one of the elite linebackers of the 2013 class but I'm not sure why. He's the two-time defending Big East Defensive Player of the Year since making the transition to linebacker after starting all 12 games at free safety in 2010. Whereas most of the "elite" linebackers in this draft class talk about making big plays, Greene actually made them, playing a role in a staggering 19 turnovers (12 forced fumbles, six interceptions, one fumble recovery) over a remarkable career.

This would be another WTF first round pick. Kid seems like a solid player but the NFL.com draft profile says he can't tackle well, others says he's not that good in press coverage. He does fit our scheme as it is now. Despite his solid athletic numbers at the combine the lack of top competition, and his size, is concerning given his negatives. Seems like another version of Tim Jennings (a bit bigger) and to replace Tillman I'd rather have one bigger corner on the roster to handle some of the guys like Calvin Johnson.

It seems clear there is going to be competition at either OG or OC (or both). Can't rule out OT either.

I don't think he's that slow, many DBs have trouble keeping up with him a times in these highlights. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8OPC5Iy-NJo USC game highlights (which I think gives better evaluation) He's not Vernon Davis fast for sure but he reportedly ran anywhere from a 4.57 to 4.63 (his own words based on post interview and I've seen some other reports on those times) so we can call it a mid-4.6 which is adequate to threaten the deep middle of the field. He's a big man and he is not quick off the line and that's very obvious in the highlight videos, but he covers a lot of ground once he gets moving and he has some wiggle to him. Having said that, I don't like Ertz at #20. He's a good player and will be a good player in the NFL but that might be his ceiling. He occasionally make a highlight catch but he's not capable what Tyler Eifert can do. As a blocker Ertz is ok but I didn't see anything that made me say he's a great blocker. In comparing highlights he's not that much better than Eifert is at blocking. If we want a pass catching TE we should go with Eifert at 20 he will cause more matchup problems for defenses. In the Alabama game he looked like he belonged on the field, more than can be said for many of the Notre Dame players that day. Alabama often put Milliner on him and Milliner might be a top 15 pick. Eifert is a guy you can throw open as he makes great adjustments to the ball.

I think that's exactly what this is. Just plant enough doubt to make someone willing to move up to take him. And really it doesn't have to be a trade with the Bears, even if someone ahead of us trades back allowing a team to take Glennon ahead of us it could drop another player we might really be interested in back to our spot. At the same time reports of us giving a private workout to Justin Pugh showed up.

2002 is a long time ago. I'm curious if anyone can recall what year the pass interference rules get more favorable for the offense? If anything that should help Trestman's style of offense.

I used Hester as part of my argument that the ability of a WR to learn an offense is important to success in the NFL. I suppose I could have used David Terrell. We're in agreement...the interviews are far more important and could give some indication of the why behind the Wonderlic test results. Gabbert may be smart enough to read a defense but lack the courage to hang in the pocket and make the play. I don't know I've never watched him play in the NFL. A low score would definitely make me do more research to understand why. Teams add in feedback from coaches on the player (although that could be biased as well). The problem is teams get a whopping 15min to interview at the combine but the other visits from players are probably more telling. That assumes a team doesn't waste time on stupid questions. This is the stuff we never get to know as teams keep it all very close to the vest. Hester had a good work ethic to build up his body for being a WR. It may have helped in some ways but slowed him down. Austin is a far more polished WR coming out of college, he will contribute immediately for any team. I just think there will be players at that spot in the first that can contribute as much or more over more games (i.e. Fluker) and that we can get a productive slot WR later in the draft. Since they decided to keep Hester (I preferred the cap space) there is no need to bring in Austin to return kicks.

Thanks don't read much of their stuff since they like to spam my email.

I said "it's a factor" I didn't say it was the only thing a team will consider. Vince Young had a 6 but you can keep cherry picking players for which it may not have been a sign of poor future performance. Blaine Gabbert had a 42, what's that doing for him? This might just shock you but there is a reason teams likw to interview players they are interested in and this is one of them. Great math skills, or English skills, don't have a perfect correlation to great skill reading defenses, or diagnosing offensive plays at the snap. It may (notice that word "may" http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/may?s=t) indicate work ethic on and off the field, and the ability to assimilate information in a short amount of time (i.e. learn a new playbook) and that is a factor for every team at any pick. College grades do not necessarily indicate success in business world but companies still want to know what your grades were. The question is how much weight does it deserve? Explain why you like to take one small word and then extrapolate the meaning of it all the way to extreme position, a position which is clearly not being argued? It's a straw man argument (http://www.wisegeek.org/what-is-a-straw-man-argument.htm). And my comparison to Hester was not just based on his early lack of knowing where to line up and what route to run, it was also based on the smaller stature of both players.

For anyone who remembers teammates having to tell Hester where to line up on plays, yes, it is a factor. Perhaps moreso now than with our last couple offenses: http://www.chicagobears.com/news/article-1...f3-1248af4292da Great start: New coach Marc Trestman was impressed with how sharp the players on the Bears offense looked in the team's first minicamp practice Tuesday. "Their ability to learn a complete language, line up in the right spot and keep practice moving fluidly, I think that was apparent," Trestman said. "There wasn't a lot of stop, get-back-in-the-huddle and re-dos, and that's a real credit to our coaches and our players for being able to assimilate so much information in a short period of time. "[but] it's not over. [On Wednesday] we're giving them a whole other game plan and they've got to learn another 100 plays and another 20 runs and come out here and do the same time. We're really trying to stretch them as much as we can, particularly offensively. I think they've shown they can handle the information and we'll see what happens [Wednesday]. [Wednesday] is a new day."

I think that's what we plan to do as well but I wouldn't completely rule out trading him or using him as part of a trade. However, his cap hit makes it a tough pill for a most teams so the market for that trade is small. He's proven to have no value as a WR so why wouldn't that same team just grab one guy in the 5th to return kicks? The only real value I can see is his name will help a bad team sell tickets.

I agree, that's not the real news, or key to Kromer's success, but it is still telling the way Garza stated it. I think the secret lies more in the teaching aspect and his understanding that different guys have to do things slightly different to fit their talents.

All Shefter said is that the room belonged to those two players. But if this smoke has no fire they why did one of these players blow off meetings with teams at his pro day? I don't know which one of them it was but it's hard to see how that helps them. How players handle situations like this does matter to teams, ask Brandon Marshall.

I was somewhat on the Austin bandwagon a couple months ago but now I'd rather have Eifert than Austin at #20. He'll bring more versatility to the offense plus TE is the most injured position in football (ask the Patriots) so if the TE is a staple to your offense it is important to have two very good pass catchers in this role. Plus 175lb football players have a short shelf life during the season. Look at how Hester has fared in his role as a WR, he's always beat up and half the time he runs out of bounds. As we all know, the NFL is not like college where just being fast works. This league has quite a few CBs like Patrick Peterson who are just as fast as Austin but outweigh him by 45lbs. That adds up over 16 games. You can find little fast players later in the draft if that's what you want. I think Bucky Brooks summed it nicely although he's talking about him as a top 10 pick I still think these points must be considered at #20. At #30 it's a bit different. http://www.nfl.com/draft/story/0ap10000001...rated-prospects ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Now, I definitely see the similarities in playing styles, but neither Harvin nor Jackson has made a significant impact as a No. 1 receiver in the NFL. (Harvin has never posted a 1,000-yard season, while Jackson has surpassed that mark just twice in five years.) And there haven't been many 5-foot-8, 174-pound receivers who have taken the league by storm. That's why I can't fully endorse Austin's rise as a potential top-10 pick, even with his ability to score from anywhere on the field. The NFL remains a big man's game, and it's hard for a diminutive pass catcher to function as a legitimate No. 1 receiver. I believe Austin can be an explosive complementary player, but you don't take role players early in the draft.