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You had me at hello but then you went right into a WTF moment. We all like the intangibles this kid has...high motor, hustle every down, great work ethic, do whatever the coaches need inside outside drop back etc. What we don't like....level of competition and that is the bottom line. His measurables hold up against any of the other DEs in the draft. I like what I see in his highlights but I have no idea if that will translate to the NFL level of competition. Which is why I said WTF last night when I heard his name. At least JA usually made me wait until Rd 2 to say that.
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I don't see Randle falling that far. He has to be at the top of the WR wish list in Rd 2, certainly before our pick. Start thinking DT.
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Its their moment, let them enjoy it. I actually like the personal touch having more players at the draft site.
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I didn't see it in the videos I watched. I watch NFL Network all the time and rarely does Mayock make any kind of a statement like that unless the guy is a top 5 player.
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I never have any issues with nfl.com.
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I've never heard anything bad about Burfict off the field but I still don't see him as a good fit in our scheme. I honestly expected him to run somewhere in the 4.6 range and he's nowhere close to that. Could he get faster? Maybe but I never really saw that much speed from him on the field. I don't think he's necessarily a dirty player as much as he is just not a smart player. I don't see how that translates into good play in the NFL. He's still a UDFA option for the Bears IMO and I'd put my late round picks elsewhere as Emery said on guys who have the measurables but might need some more time to develop the football smarts.
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I'd be fighting that with every legal angle possible. That's total BS to say well you happened to be here when something bad happened and say goodbye to a game check. Why doesn't the other angle make the league look good? You know how Marshall was at a club when something bad happened and he just quietly walked away.
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Yes I agree (as long as Cutler has time to throw), but the proposal was to trade Forte for Wallace.
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I see Chandler Jones rising way up the boards on many sites, Mayock now has him as the #9 prospect overall which I think is crazy. After watching his highlights against WVU and Pitt he's a good player but reminds me of Alex Brown. Not all that special athletically but can make some plays for you and he hustles to the ball. He's likely a better all-around DE at this point than guys like Mercilus or Perry but I view both of those guys as better pass rushers. I want a excellent pass rusher in this draft.
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He also said he is open to trading up.
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I prefer the balance we have on offense with Marshall and Forte versus Marshal and Wallace. I think that makes it harder to defend us.
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I have to add this which I came across tonight. ---------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.nfl.com/draft/story/09000d5d828...HP11_hot_topics 5. Shea McClellin, OLB, Boise State: Pass rushers are valued at a premium in the NFL, so prospects flashing the ability to get to the quarterback fly up the charts as the draft approaches. McClellin is not a pure pass rusher with the size and speed to consistently win against big, imposing offensive tackles. His production has been a byproduct of the Broncos' clever defensive scheme, rather than his individual talent. For a team expecting a dominating pass rusher with game-changing skills, McClellin's workmanlike game might not produce the results to match his draft status. Follow Bucky Brooks on Twitter @BuckyBrooks
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There will always be steals in the draft, and even the occasional UDFA steal. However, I think today's NFL teams put far more resources into scouting and talent evaluation than was done 20-30 years ago. I think it's getting more difficult for good players to slip into UDFA status. Nowadays players like Brian Quick from tiny Appalachian State can start out as a late round pick and by draft time be seen as a 2-3rd Rd option despite the lower level of competition.
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You can only make that statement with the comfort of knowing we have Culter under center and not Henry Burris.
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Maybe it is not so much the system you use but the scores you give out within that system. Give out "good" scores to Jarron Gilbert in any system and he's still a bust. That is something that caught my eye in the article. Emery could have gone out and said use this new grading system for this draft but he didn't. He allowed the scouts and team personnel to stay with the same system they understood but injected his values within that scheme. Rather than having his team focused on learning a new system they simply had to just adjust scoring in the existing system based on feedback from the boss. Something that is much easier to adjust to, and likely provides more accurate results on short notice, rather than the complete overhaul that is coming. Once this is complete this summer he will be instituting his system. Why the difference? Because it appears to me that Emery wants to teach them more than just how to use the scoring system, it's about how to properly grade prospects among the various attributes. I think this was a smart approach given the short and very busy time he had to get things all lined up and should give more accurate results this draft in terms of everyone being on the same page.
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He's not a explosive quick-twitch player and I think that's what we need to add on the outside. On the inside he might help out down the road but I don't think he's big enough (279lb) at this point to play inside in a 4-3 scheme except perhaps on passing downs. I view him as a better fit as a DE in a 3-4 alignment or a DE in a 4-3 like Greg Blache used to run where pass rush came second after reading the play first.
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Don't see it happening but wouldn't trade up as we have too many needs, especially at DE that need to be addressed early.
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The article in question: http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/footb...0,920709.column
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I'm not so sure they aren't considering him as a full-time DE but possibly as someone to consider if they trade back in Rd 1. Drafting him as a LB at 19 would be a mistake IMO, at least for this year and next, because of the greater need for a speed rusher. At best McClellin would be our starting SLB but in our division he'd always be off the field on 3rd down, and maybe more often than that when we are in nickel situation. Our D has been pretty good the last couple years but we can't get off the field on 3rd down even 3rd and long. IMO we need to get some speed injected into our pass rush to solve that problem.
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Seeing some reports the Bears are expressing 1st Rd interest in Shea McClellin. http://profootball.scout.com/a.z?s=127&...17785&fhn=1
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I think its DE in the first. In my mock on the NFL site I actually ended with us taking Coples. After reviewing each teams needs and players available it just ended up that he fell to us because of the question marks on his drive. If Coples isn't there I still prefer Nick Perry over Mercillus. I see him more explosive and powerful than Mercillus. After Perry bulked up to 270lbs and still ran in the 4.6s while benching 35 reps he answered the biggest questions. My pick - Nick Perry.
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I agree, I think there's a young CB picked in the draft and at this spot taking the CB fits team needs better than adding competition for the 3rd RB spot. Another point is Bell playing special teams on coverage where he improved last year and would/could Rainey fill that role? We've already signed players to handle the KR/PR spots and if you draft Quick then, with Hester on the roster, why do we need Rainey? I'm not sure Quick will last to our pick in the 3rd Rd but if he does grab him. Allen in the 2nd seems a bit of a reach and I think (hope) if we go LT in Rd 2 there will be someone better available ...could Adams fall to us after the recent reports? If we go Oline in Rd 2 before Allen I'd prefer to grab one of the more talented OGs and just kick Chris Williams back outside. I don't see Allen being better than him at LT especially in his rookie year.
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No you are using the wrong analogy. I said our LT spot is a concern but aside from that, given that we have more competition for our interior spots on the Oline for the backup roles the line has improved. Set the LT position aside from the discussion (i.e. take away the question marks on the LT ) and go from LG to RT. Is there a glaring a need to put a 1st, or 2nd rd pick on fixing those spots? You might feel there is but I don't. Getting to the 3rd rd there might be a talent there to good to pass up if someone falls but otherwise I'm content grabbing a guy in the later rounds. Again, if we are not considering the LT need, then in Rd 1 and 2 I prefer to address DE and one of WR/CB/DT or LB. Now if the plan is to put Williams back at OT to compete for either starting LT (or be backup OT) then the need to find interior help early in the draft increases and it should be addressed in the early rounds but I think a good OG could be found in Rd 2, and preferably Rd 3. If Williams stays as LG there is still a need IMO to find help early in the draft to fix LT but that doesn't change the fact that I think from LG to RT we have a good Oline. IIRC two seasons ago we were talking about Johan Asiata stepping up and being a solid backup or possibly a starter. Where is he now? Who was Edwin Williams when we brought him in? I see a big difference in the quality of the backup talent Emery is bringing to our roster versus what JA brought in. I really like having some experienced players in Spencer (JA guy) and Rachal competing with young inexperienced players for jobs. May the best man win. I didn't say Rachal pushed our starting Oline talent up a notch because we still must solidify the LT position but he does increase the talent level and competiton of the backup depth. I view that as a positive plus Emery has only been at this for a couple months and hasn't even had his first draft yet. The $64,000 question is: Does Tice see LT as that big of a need?
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A couple seasons ago, and really heading into last year before the Spencer deal, our Oline depth was a bunch of guys with potential. Nobody could say anything about guys like E. Williams or some of the other guys we've had as backups. Now we have two backup OG in Spencer and Rachal who were both early round picks and both have played a lot of games. Despite the questions around Rachal both of these guys represent a big upgrade in Oline depth. Take away the question marks on the LT spot and we wouldn't be talking much about Oline for this draft in the early rounds. With the exception of Jason of course.
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4.6+ forty at the combine, no bench press there and then he runs faster at his team's pro day but only 4 reps in the bench press. Add in the body fat % and it all fits. The person who most believe the hype on Wright was Wright himself.