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To be fair you can only include Denver vs. Chicago. What other teams did with their picks from trades is irrelevant to how the two key teams ended up with in the trade. I think Denver did ok in the draft but considering what they gave up to get I'd say they totally messed up this year's draft, and now next years draft too. I like Ayers and Smith but I don't see where either is going to be an elite player. The TE, he'll just be another guy nobody outside Denver knows about. Orton is a good QB and will continue to be just a good QB. IMO to make this deal worthwhile they had to come out of it with at least one elite player and they had two years to pull that off. Of the players they added with our picks I'd say Ayers is most likely to get there but I just don't see it. Advantage: Bears. We got an elite player at the toughest position to find an elite player.

It's clear he likes blocking because he pancaked two players on ESPN's play of the year.

I was never that much in favor of adding Boldin as I felt the price was too high. I certainly don't want to give up our 2nd Rd pick next year. I'd rather just grab a FA WR to round out the competition.

I find that surprising. I like the 3 WR we picked up but it's too much to count on all of them panning out.

In reply also to the statement that Brandon Marshall is a #1 WR. It made me curious just what was said about Marshall when he was in the draft. No doubt Marshall is a very good WR but after reading this I'm even more curious to find out if the QB makes the WRs better. Aside from the obvious size difference I think Iglesias skill set matches up well with Marshall and it appears Iglesias is a better open field runner. Here's a couple of Marshall's draft profiles: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/...ayers/2846.html BIO: Full-time starter the past two seasons. Team.s leading receiver as a senior with 74/1,195/11. Junior totals included eight receptions for 84 yards, and he also spent time at safety during the second half of the season. POSITIVES: King-sized possession wideout who may eventually develop into a tight end. Physical, outmuscles opponents and comes away with the reception. Consistently extends and catches the ball away from his frame. Offers the quarterback a nice target, has soft hands and plays with excellent body control. Adequate blocker downfield. NEGATIVES: Overall game lacks quickness and speed. Marginal route-runner. ANALYSIS: Displaying significant improvement as a senior, Marshall presents himself as a receiver used in third down or red-zone situations at the next level. PROJECTION: Late Sixth Round http://www.sportspool.com/football/draft/492.php Brandon Marshall has excellent size and has shown a willingness to catch passes going into traffic. Brandon can take the hard hit and hold onto the ball or he can reach out and pluck the ball away from his body. He has the ability to use his body to cut-off/shield defenders from ball and make tough catches. When Marshall goes up aggressively, he has shown the hands to catch the high pass easily. He has the natural size and strength to be a strong runner after the catch when he runs aggressively. Brandon Marshall and can drag tacklers for extra yards after intial contact. He was Central Florida's go-to-receiver and learned to use his hands and strength to fight through jams well. Brandon Marshall despite his great 40-time, Marshall does not show quickness, speed or explosiveness in routes. He has enough speed but in terms of quickness to the ball he struggles to get separation in routes because his routes. Not a great route runner, his routes are not sharp and he runs very upright. He does not have the playing speed to stretch the field and get separation on deep routes. Brandon Marshall does not have natural hands and he tends to allow easy passes into his body, fights the ball, and drops some passes he should catch.

The combination of Jarron Gilbert, Henry Melton, and Johnny Knox is better value than Mitchell.

He played through that ankle injury so he showed a lot of toughness.

The bio sounds a lot like Lance Briggs.

I don't like the fact we didn't get a good FS prospect but I definitely like all the competition JA has created in the secondary.

A faster and more agile version of Rashied Davis and he can catch! I'm in. I agree we can't expect much from him this year but I also think we won't be able to put him on the practice squad. It would be nice to add a veteran WR to the ranks but if we do we'll end up keeping 6 WR. Hester, Bennett, Iglesias, Davis, Knox, FA vet

There's no way I see us going after Johnson DE because this is our first pick in the draft. We have needs, huge needs, and JA has to feel like he needs a high certainty of hitting on this next pick. If Johnson is there in the 4th I could see us taking him then.

He doesn't wrap up very well but hits like a ton of bricks. His speed is evident on the video but he's going against lesser competition. I'm surprised he went so early.

Iglesias at 68.

It's safe to say that deal is not happening.

That's what Boldin brought to the AZ Cardinals who are a very pass happy team that happens to play indoors or if they open the roof in good weather. Boldin also has a guy named Fitzgerald who makes the secondary worry about a downfield threat and let Boldin run a bunch of short routes underneath the coverage. Devin Hester is not Larry Fitzgerald so Boldin is going to be the primary focus of the DBs and he's not running away from them anymore. He does still run through them which causes him to miss a lot of games every season. Perhaps you didn't notice that Steve Breaston who was their 3rd WR and who filled in when Boldin was hurt had 77 rec for 1000 yards. Is it the WR making all the yards or the QB and system?

I'd give up our 2nd Rd pick this year for Braylon. Our 2010 first round pick is already sitting in Denver.

I like it too except I'd rather have Melton in Rd 5 instead of the OT.

He seems more like a guy we have targeted at #99. I like him there.

I agree with AZBear, the more I hear the more I want to pass on him too. We have better options at either WR or FS to help this team without the distractions of having some punk messing up the locker room. On top of that, Harvin really hasn't played a true WR position so he's going to have a big learning curve and we already have that guy on our roster in Hester.

PASS ON THIS DEAL. He's not worth $9mil/yr and giving up a 2nd Rd pick or Urlacher. If Urlacher's injuries and age are slowing him down the same thing is happening to Boldin. As far the value of those two players to their respective teams I'll say this: When Urlacher is off the field our defense is noticeably worse. When Boldin is off the field the Cards offense keeps putting up points and getting to the Superbowl. If Boldin didn't have his injury history (only one complete season in his career) then it might be a better deal. I'd also be more in favor of it if he were coming in to be our complementary #2 WR instead of our #1, or at least if we had that bigger WR who was a downfield threat. We don't have that and so there's an opportunity cost in givng up that pick for an older player. Likewise, we have another opportunity cost when we give him that huge contract money that should go to a better player.

Wrong I bet he's not even playing until after week 6. They'll go with Culpepper the first half of the season and let Stafford learn a bit. Once the season is over (say 0-8) then bring in the rookie off the bench. By then they'll have had time to fix pass protection issues.

When you find it let me know. I have no desire for a part time college DE to join our team with the 2nd Rd pick. Johnson is lazy and it's naive to think Marinelli or anyone will get him to be different once he has lots of money to spend. The LB too would be another part time player (SLB), if he sees the field. Grabbing a WR in Rd 2 might also be a part time player for us this year but it's a lot bigger need. If that fails then grab a FS who is likely to be a fulltime player on D again where we have a huge hole.

If it's anything more than our 2nd Rd pick I'll pass and I'm not even that high on giving that up. Boldin's antics last year during a Superbowl run were childish. On top of that I don't like his BS attitude toward his contract situation given that the Cards gave him a new deal after just two seasons and then he threw them under the bus for it. Of course that puts him in the same club as guys like Urlacher. If his contract demand was in the $7-8mil/yr range I'd be more interested but not at $9mil/yr. He's not the same player he used to be (slower and more drops) and he won't have the wide open offense and good weather he had in AZ to produce big numbers. He'd make our WR corps better without a doubt but I just think that cost is a bit too high for what he'll bring.

If I had the money these guys everytime I go out there'd be a limo taking me and my friends all over town.

If he had good hands he wouldn't even be around for our pick. We're getting a WR with some imperfections and Barden certainly has his too. I'm wondering if our real target is Iglesias. We've certainly been to the Oklahoma well often enough to be very familiar with their players. Iglesias also had a workout with the Bears. http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/563875 An instinctive route-runner who reads coverages well and has a feel for getting open, Iglesias started 39 of 54 games for the Sooners, including four as a slot receiver and 35 at flanker. He has reliable hands, tracks the ball well over either shoulder and is adept and elusive as a punt and kick returner. He is not afraid to go over the middle and will fight for extra yardage. Iglesias has better quickness than his combine-best 40-yard time of 4.50 might indicate. He is hard to cover because he has a surprising burst that creates separation. Last year he caught 74 passes for 1,150 yards and 10 touchdowns, and finished with career totals of 202 receptions for 2,861 yards and 19 scores. He averaged 26.41 yards on kickoff returns. - Frank Cooney, The SportsXchange, NFLDraftScout.com