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Did anyone else notice how nobody on the Detroit Lions wants to sit near Williams on the sideline? That tells you all you need to know about this crybaby.

Exactly what 3 games has Kyle Orton played well? I'll give you Detroit today you give me the other two. Against the Eagles he played in the first half and was horrendous in the second half. Why he gets a pass for his Grossmanesque turnovers is beyond me. Against Tampa he threw a horrible INT that cost us the game. I was hoping to see a complete game from him today and I did. I have also been waiting to see improved accuracy on the deep ball and we saw that today too. Overall I think Orton is becoming more confident and starting to look like a starting QB but I need to see much more before I'd sign him to a long term contract.

Graham is already taking snaps away from Vasher. It's not that big of a reach for him to fill in fulltime if Vasher isn't 100%. At this point I think Graham at 100% is better than Vasher at 85%. I still want Peanut on the other side.

Funny as hell! At least he's leading his team in one category.

If the price was reasonable but I think he'll be asking for Berrian money and I don't feel he's worth it. He takes plays off and hasn't had a good history of running good routes. When it comes to big contracts a player must be capable of consistent performance week after week. When FA begins I wouldn't get into a bidding war with him and I'd definitely explore the other options we have.

Practice at this time of year isn't like practice in training camp. What I'd like to hear is that Williams is doing a full strength training workout including squats, which apparently he could never do before the surgery.

Some leadership. The fine needs to be larger.

No mention of AP....hmmm.

If Mark Anderson understood his role as the end contain we wouldn't have given up two big reverses last night. As was pointed out in one article last night, why do you think the Eagles ran that play when Anderson was on the field and not Brown? I agree that it's frustrating to watch our DEs routinely run past the QB when he can step up in the pocket but I am far more concerned about the lack of pressure up the middle. DEs aren't the only guys responsible for getting pressure on a QB. The outside rush does allow for some effective blitzes into that gap between OG/OT.

Better take care of business next week. Orton was horrendous in the second half. If his first name was Rex he'd have been getting booed relentlessly. If he can find a way to have the 1st half Kyle play four quarters then we'll be in good shape.

For years we've been terrible at covering RBs on pass routes. If we want to win tomorrow we better shutdown these short passes and screens. Bring the CB up closer to the LOS (listen up Nate) while the safeties better be smart because the Eagles can go deep as well. On offense I see the opposite needing to happen. We're going to get blitzed all game long. They'll use their blitz to stop our run game and if we pass they'll be in Orton's face. To counter this we need to let Forte swing out of the backfield and let Orton float the ball to him. Forte's good enough to make one defender miss and get a big gain. If Dawkins comes up on a blitz (here's where it would be nice to have Hester) get someone on a quick slant into that space, or send the TE upfield and hit him quickly. Orton and the WR need to read the blitzes and Orton needs to be decisive in getting rid of the ball.

Why not Tommie Harris?

If we lose this week we'll be 8-8 if we win we'll be 10-6.

What about Dave Toub? He's done nothing but have one of the best units year after year even before Hester. Other special teams coaches have gone on to become good head coaches and IIRC he got some attention last year. He's a guy who finds ways to get the most out of the talent he has. When tactics dictate a change is needed, he thinks outside the box (ala putting Wolfe up front on kickoffs in case they kick short of Hester).

Bradley just never figured it out. I imagine he was making his feelings known about playing special teams while watching other WR drop passes and Lovie said enough. Given that we signed a CB it seems the Bears are content with Rideau being available if needed but they'll leave him on the practice squad.

The problem wasn't our DEs it was the lack of push up the middle. Tommie Harris has done very little up the middle in three games. Greise was always able to step up as the DEs came around the corner.

The play I'd like to see is Rashied Davis sitting on a bench. Put either Booker, Bradley, or Bennett on the field. It's time for some accountabllity on this team. I can understand a player having a bad game but two weeks in a row he's dropped key passes for us. I'm not saying don't let Davis play just don't let him be a starter. Somebody has to send a message to the team. By the way, playing on special teams Mark Bradley is starting to get more physical. I don't know if that will translate into how he runs routes and blocks.

Kevin Jones missed much of training camp waiting for his knee to heal. He's only been rehabbing for 9 months. I don't think the Bears should be forcing him to take carries right now and the fact Forte is doing so well means we don't have to. I didn't even expect him to get into a game until the middle of October. The fact he can contribute 3-6 carries a game is a plus right now.

At this point I gotta agree on Harris. He's done nothing in the first 3 games to warrant his paycheck. I can't even tell when he's on the field anymore. Hester's contract is a gamble but if he doesn't pan out as an elite WR I still think he'll be an average WR. He definitely has better hands than Rashied Davis. Hester's best value is as a deep threat and we have a QB who can't hit anyone more than 20 yards downfield.

If Rashied Davis catches a pass on 3rd and long you never see that play happen. That's twice in two weeks he's dropped an easy pass and cost us the game. On top of that we had a 10pt lead in the 4th quarter and the D gave it all back. By the third game you know what type of team you have and we're just average and likely headed for 1-3.

Exactly what talent do we have on offense? Our best WR was the worst WR on the Redskins roster last year. Rashied Davis has as many big drops as he does big catches. I constantly have to remind people in Arizona where Kyle Orton went to college (he's so famous). Our Oline was constantly berated by the vast majority of the posters on this board until after the Colts game. Jason McKie gets blasted daily by several posters here. Hester has not yet proven he can be a big time WR, though he's better than last year as a WR he's not scaring anyone yet. We do have two good TEs and at this point it appears we have a good rookie at RB. If you are the Bucs Def Coordinator which talent on our roster is keeping you up late?

On the McKie 3and1 "dive" play what I'd like to see the next time we lineup in that formation is a fake handoff to McKie and then a pitch out to Forte running to the other side (right side). I figure almost everyone on the D will bite on the dive and Forte might have one guy to beat on the corner. I'll take that matchup any day and expect he'll at least get us the yard we need. If he beats his man he could be gone all the way. This time it will be acceptable for TE Davis to let his man beat him to the inside.

If you want a questionable second round pick look no further than Devin Hester. Nobody drafts a PR/KR in Rd 2. I think Graham would be fine at the nickel spot but he hasn't practiced there at all. There's no way I'd put McBride there because with his size teams would run right at him. He is pretty poor in run support.

Two of them might if Barton does something in Miami.

I watched Painter last week and he absolutely sucked. He has no arm strength and was terribly inaccurate. He didn't look very mobile either. Attribute his passing yards to the Joe Tiller system and go find another QB especially if you are going to take one in Rd 2. I'd take Chase Daniel out of Missouri before him. Chase doesn't have all the skills you look for at the next level (i.e. strong arm, height, etc.) but when plays break down he finds a way to extend the play and make good things happen.