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Quickness is evaluated at the scouting combine in a couple drills and below you will see that Garrett Wolfe was at the head of his draft class. http://www.emqb.com/nfl-scouting-combine-day-four/ "Anyway, here are the best results from Sunday’s workouts: Running Backs: 20 Shuttle (Garrett Wolfe, Northern Illinois, 4.08); 60 Shuttle (Kenny Irons, Auburn, 11.47); Three Cone (Garrett Wolfe, 6.69); Vert Jump (Darius Walker, Notre Dame, 40.5); Broad Jump (Chris Henry, Arizona and Adrian Peterson, Oklahoma, 10′7″); 40-yard Dash (Chris Henry, Adrian Peterson and Antonio Pittman, Ohio State, 4.40)" From NFL Draft Scout.com they posted Wolfe's 40 time as being 4.39 I have no clue where to find those results for Jones, AP, and Forte except I found one source stating that Jones ran a 4.33 forty. From memory AP ran a 4.6 forty and Forte ran a 4.44 and I don't see either of them being as quick in the shuttle and 3 cone runs as Wolfe. Wolfe is fast but he really doesn't have what I call long-speed. His good forty time is a result of his quickness at getting up to full speed. He will get run down from behind by a lot of players whereas a guy like Kevin Jones might take a bit longer to get up to speed but he's less likely to get caught from behind. As a side note: San Diego plans to use Sproles a lot more this year as a RB. Not to imply he'll be a primary back just that with Turner out of the equation expect to see more of Sproles spelling LT.

I don't think they are worried at all because they have Moose fill in as the #1 WR. I don't foresee any dropoff at all when we play them.

If this team gets lucky and one of the QBs on our roster turns out to be a good NFL QB (not even great just good) then this team is setup to do some damage for the next few years.

This is good as long as this new style of kicking does not affect his accuracy on FG.

First, AP's blocking is overrated. He wiffed on a lot of blocks last year. Wolfe might not have the size you want but he has the strength needed to block. I thought he did ok blocking last year but he needs to improve. He will be our 3rd and long threat. In the open field he can do stuff no other RB on the roster can do I just hope that Turner doesn't use him up the middle against Minn on 1st and 10. I agree that as Kevin Jones gets healthy AP will move exclusively into the special teams role.

It's hard to tell from training camp videos but lately Orton seems to be throwing with more authority. I don't care who wins as long as it's the best QB. I don't get all the love for Orton in past years. He was not that good in his first season but he kept us from turnovers and so the D won games. Then after that season he didn't work hard in the offseason because Rex was named the starter and he felt sorry for himself. He wasn't ready that year and he admitted that publicly. Last year he appeared to be more prepared and improved his mechanics and strength but coming off the Superbowl the team was more comfortable keeping the battle between Rex and to a lesser extent Griese. Kyle did show enough last year to warrant a contract extension and a full opportunity to compete for the starting job this year. Everyone says it takes QBs a few years to develop and in Kyle's case that's where we are. If he's better than Grossman today I don't think that automatically means he was better than him two years ago.

Looking for any feedback on the practice tonight. Media reports say Orton played well but there's little beyond that.

We're going way off base here but since you brought up physics...there's a difference between power and momentum. The example you used was momentum. I can also get a 300lb lineman to run into the hole and you might think he has power but it might just be his momentum that carries him forward through a LB. Think Fridge running over a LB. In physics, power (symbol: P) is the rate at which work is performed or energy is transmitted, or the amount of energy required or expended for a given unit of time. As a rate of change of work done or the energy of a subsystem, power is: where P is power, W is work and t is time. To put it in a more logical way as to how we think about football Power = Force x Velocity. Think of the blocking sleds used to train lineman. We know it takes a certain amount of force to move the sled but the more powerful player will move the sled faster. Keep in mind this is moving it in a consistent way not just running into it and seeing how far it moved. A powerful RB moves the pile backwards which is why I said I'll believe Forte is powerful when I see a LBs moving backwards, not just falling backwards because someone knocked them over with their momentum. By the way, Momemtum = Mass x Velocity Devin Hester running twice as fast as lineman who is twice his size (mass) has the same momentum. If they both ran into the same player you'd see the same effect on that guy. Going back to your example, if that little S-10 was setup with the 500 hp engine from a ZR-1 Corvette it would be more powerful than an Ford Super Duty which has a a maximum of 350hp. Both will kill me at 55mph but the Super Duty has more momentum and would throw my body about twice as far down the road. We're not delving into a discussion on torque. Nowhere in here does burst equate to power because a smaller lighter vehicle will accelerate more quickly (burst) with a less powerful engine. Thus a Lotus Elise (the Devin Hester of the sports car world) with it's tiny 4 cyl 190hp engine will easily outrun the 350hp Super Duty.

I do. I see Brady Quinn in the picture next year although he won't be a FA.

Hester has a ton of burst but I wouldn't say he has a lot of power. When I see LBs moving backwards then I'll agree.

I didn't make any leap of faith, I said let him compete. If Hanie is showing any competence at all I think Simms (if brought in) should have to compete to earn the roster spot. If Simms is as good as you say why be so worried about him competing with UDFA Hanie?

I wouldn't say we have depth, we simply have equivalent talent all the way around. Nobody stands out at all and that is obvious because there is not a single person on the planet who knows who our starting WRs are, not even the coaches. At the same time I don't think the talent is bottom of the barrel either. Offensive starting jobs up for grabs: QB, WR, WR, WR, LT, LG, RB, and although it's much less of a concern I'll add TE to that mix because we don't really know if it's Olsen or Clark. That's 8/11 spots with uncertainty. IMO with this much turnover the coaches must make some decisions as early as possible so players can start to develop some continuity. If the QB job is going to wait until game 3 then the WR should be settled much sooner than that so both QBs know who they are working with.

If you are shopping the guy then he isn't in your plans and it's better to give the new guy all the reps so he gets better. RMJ has had lots of opportunities to show he can play CB and has failed each time. He's ok inside but absolutely cannot backup the outside spots. He was a nice stopgap but how long do you keep a guy like that on the roster?

Fingers are crossed in anticipation. Let's hope the offense is good enough to get some first downs this year so we can see some more plays like this 2 TE formation.

If Bradley doesn't have the mental side down after this much time in the offense then I can definitely see him getting cut. He better step up if he wants a roster spot. I think in the end he makes the team and I see us keeping 6 WR because Hester does dual duty. R. Davis Booker (the mentor) Lloyd Bennett Bradley Hester If Bradley gets cut or in the unlikely event he gets hurt I expect to see Hass on the roster.

How do you know his power when nobody is really hitting yet?

I'll take Bennett. If I understood the question correctly it was posed as to who will be our stud from among the later round picks, not necessarily this year. I still think Bennett is going to contribute this year but may not have an exceptional year. I see him doing some good things in the slot. I'll guess that Hester and Davis split time at the 2 spot, expect Davis to move inside to the slot position when Hester is on the field. That means Bennett gets slot time when Hester sits. This leaves Bradley, Lloyd, and Booker to fight for the #1 spot. Right now it appears Lloyd has the upper hand but it's early, very early and no games have been played. This whole mess could turn in any direction if there's an injury. Harrison is another player I like but he's fighting for time against a lot better competition. Forte should be our main RB threat so I'll leave him out of this discussion. Bowman? Again he has a lot of tough competition and I don't think his knees are ready for a full NFL season. I see him on the roster but staying on the bench this year.

I don't mind bringing in Simms but only to compete for the 3rd spot. I'm also not totally sold that he'll beat out Hanie although I think it's likely. Make no promises and let them compete for the roster spot.

Nothing will open up until we find something we can hang our hat on. This offense does not have any bread and butter formation/play that it can rely on. I'm not suggesting we need to be predictable just that there needs to be some aspect of the offense that we can execute consistently well, well enough that a D needs to respect it. Any single aspect (i.e. runs up the middle) can help others that are weaker. At this point I can't say we have anything we do well.

We can still save money by cutting RMJ (or trading him) and I think that's going to happen. My other vote for being cut after last year was Metcalf but since he's being listed as our starter at LG. However, if we use the money to sign a better LG I'm still ok cutting Metcalf at least until he proves he belongs on our oline.

Anyone have an idea how much cap space we have left? I'd like to know if we'll be able to do something to help the Oline if a decent vet gets cut.

I agree with that.

Even if he's our 4th DE we always use 3 DEs during a game. If one goes down we need that fourth guy to get on the field. I hope he shows something this preseason. I liked Idonije's versatility but he never did much at DE for us.

From what I've seen in the videos Mullen is too slow to make it in this league. As I see it he can either get faster or he can get taller if he wants to stick around. Monk...in the You Tube highlights Monk was very lazy coming inside on a crossing route and gator armed a pass allowing RMJ to knock the ball down. For his size he needs to be lot tougher going after the ball than that. Welcome to the practice squad Mr. Monk. Lloyd...if he can get over his fear of getting hit he'll be a good WR for us. Maybe the fear of losing millions of dollars in potential salary will be greater than the fear of getting hit? In some of the highlights I've seen him laying out to make a catch which is a good sign IMO. We'll see if that keeps up when the defense is really hitting though.

Between the two it's Hester hands down. I don't think Hester will fully replace Berrian's WR production this year (I hope so) but I think it's reasonable to see him come close next year. I say come close because he'll always be splitting time with his KR/PR duties so he should see less plays than Berrian. I think Hester's YAC will be far better than Berrian's once he settles into the offense.