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Can one of the mods update the title of this thread to Tyson Bagent? I get names wrong all the time, I just want to give the rookie his due.

Add the fact we tried to block this guy for 2 days of practice and one game. Coaches know very well how he fared against our Oline as compared to Lewis.

Flus knows him. All I can guess is that this means Lewis wasn’t really a HITS guy and the new guy is. We all know this far down the roster how important special teams is. https://www.nfl.com/prospects/khalid-kareem/32004b41-5225-9489-fd0c-044abf6bbb38 Should at least be a better run defender than Lewis. Next off-season is going to be all about pass rusher.

Pesky is a good description because I think this roster can compete with all but the best teams. There is still a lot of inexperience on the roster so we see how quickly they come together. We will be capable of more explosive plays on offense. Defense should be better at preventing explosive plays. Week 1 will be very insightful. Win or lose fans emotions and year long predictions are going to swing to either extreme. I’m riding the fence at 8 and 8 for a 17 game schedule with Wk1 result tipping it (7 or 9 wins).

I can't believe we're keeping 10 OL, 2 or 3 of which are backup Centers. Is that really just because of injuries? Among starters only Teven Jenkins is affected and we slid Whitehair over to cover leaving 3 players competing to play at Center? There is time to move Carter back to LG and put Whitehair (if he can snap) back at C. Maybe we'll have to wait until they see what they've got in the Feeney. Last year felt different when we tried to hang onto a couple developmental players but at best that'd be Kramer. I don't think they're that high on Kramer or IMO they'd just cut Patrick especially now with Feeney on board. We have 4 DTs and 5 DEs. Two of the DEs can potentially move inside but Rasheem Green looked bad against the run on the edges. I can't see him being any better inside. That leaves just Walker as the only legit Edge who can slide inside but we have little depth at DE and can't afford to wear him down on too many plays inside. To me it feels like there is another move pending that will knock down the Oline to 9. It might be as simple as one of them goes on IR (Patrick?) with a designation to return.

You're right he didn't say horrible .... but the quote was: "Fields has not made any progress on getting the ball out of his hands" That's a pretty damning statement from an entire offseason working in the second year he's been in the system. That much practice with a better WR corps and better Oline and no progress at all is, IMHO, horrible.

We agree to agree ?

Me too. They can cut Patrick as far as I’m concerned. Stash Dieter and Kramar on the practice squad and call them up if needed. We won’t be any worse than when Patrick is on the field.

I can’t agree with that at all. They held him out of the Indy game because practice went well. Against Buffalo he got maybe 10 plays. Those aren’t actions of a team wanting a guy to improve via more reps. In the first game he only threw short passes. Of course there is still room for improvement but to say he’s been horrible all camp doesn’t fit the mountain of evidence. This take feels like journalist who need clicks and fell in love with the dink and dunk passing game of the backup QB. That dink and dink stuff looks good until you get behind the sticks and need a big play.

I don't like our backup safeties but DHC was bad in coverage and was already surpassed on special teams by guys like Velus Jones and Blackwell on kick coverage. His ship has sailed we need to be trying out younger guys searching for upside.

Mooney for Chris Jones is a trade I can support.

Why did those two get cut so early? Is it so they can clear waivers, or not, and the team can plan around that to put them on the practice squad? Or know they need to look elsewhere.

We'll never know if PJ Walker took his position as the #2 QB for granted or if that's simply the best he can play. Either way the coaches made the right decision. Leatherwood was given every opportunity as well and didn't earn it. Glad to see us moving on from both.

If Stevenson learns to keep his eyes on the receiver when in man coverage he'll be good. He likes to cheat and look back at the QB and that's where he ends up with his holding penalties. I like what Swift said when he called Dexter and Pickens.... The Law Firm. Looking forward to watching these two grow in their skillsets.

With those first round picks that roster would be incredible, or at least make it easier to hold onto their top 5 power ranking as they let expensive vets go.

Well we know Walker didn't make a good case for himself. At least while sitting on the bench Walker looked like he was quite comfortable with his guaranteed money. Bagent looked okay but as I waited to see any pass beyond 10 yards down field I felt like that meme where the guy is poking something with a stick saying "come on do something". His pocket presence is surprisingly good. We have to remember how much Justin struggled with this offense last year and keep that in perspective for what Bagent is doing. The further downfield you go the more variables there are in the route "reads" based on the coverage. I think we saw some of that on Bagent's INT where the receiver just stopped cold and didn't even turn around. So I agree they let Bagent "lose" the job today and I don't think he did that at all. My only question now is do we keep 3 QBs? I'd rather keep 2 and stash Peterman on the practice squad again. If we lose Fields and Bagent to injury Walker is not going to save the season any more or less than Peterman. In fact I'd just as soon take the higher draft pick, especially if we need to draft a QB. In the meantime that lets us keep another roster spot for Oline depth which we need right now.

Agreed. Just sit tight and build through the draft.

Misfiring on a lot of cellular biology here. Let's get back to football.

Reddit SportSurge FTW. That's all I'm going to say. MIrror the iMac over to the 65" Sony TV and voila.

Brock Purdy's limitations will be more visible this year now that teams have a full offseason of tape on him. That said he has the right coach calling plays and the talent around him to mask his limitations and play to his strengths. JimmyG took SF pretty far before becoming an NFL cast-off (aka bridge QB). Trey Lance eh, not so much.

Yes. Here's another breakdown of Bagent's performance from JT O'Sullivan to tide you over until tomorrow's game.

I 100% hope that is not what he's dealing with. High risk stuff and actually quite painful. I think this staff does a good job taking care of the players and for his own safety won't clear him to play until it's all good.

Thanks Mongo for going to all that trouble. If this is true....and I'd much prefer he was physically injured instead of hurt feelings. I can't imagine getting paid $10mil/yr and quitting on my teammates because I thought practice was too hard. The Bears didn't force him to sign that contract nor to come here. Then again I didn't quit hard practices in high school when I wasn't getting paid. I wanted to get better and I wanted my teammates to work hard and get better too. I have no frame of reference for him quitting because his feelings were hurt. As for him quitting and then returning and suddenly becoming a leader .... nobody is foolish enough to believe that crap. Trust, once broken takes a long time to rebuild. Guys like Carter have been out there working hard for two weeks while he sat around and did nothing. Davis' first apology should have been to his teammates for acting like a selfish child.

Interesting but I can’t imagine Flus took him on that many dates.

There's a whole lot of nothing at that link. Maybe because I’m not a Twitter customer? Or maybe because I’m blocking Elon’s tracking methods? Anyone have a one line summary of what happened?