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Whatever it is, his body language shows it's very emotional for him and he's torn about leaving the team/practice.

Game broadcast in AZ!

https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2023/09/07/packers-wr-romeo-doubs-returns-to-practice-thursday-wr-christian-watson-still-out/

I'll guess it's someone less prominent as their defense focuses on the obvious big names and stopping the run. Give me Robert Tonyan for 6pts.

Don’t care. We have equivalent issues at Oline and safety (to a lesser extent) but I’m hopeful Brisker can play. Based on the article they could be missing all 3 top WR. Still don’t care. https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2023/09/06/half-of-packers-wrs-dealing-with-hamstring-injuries-to-open-week-1-practice/

If Love was that good don’t you think they’d have kept Adams last year and let Rodgers walk? Their team would be in much better shape than they are now. Young starting QB plus legit WR1.

I think Adam has brought this up but in the first couple minutes of this video listen to where many of the players who started games last year for the Bears are today. As I listened to that I realized that I literally have no clue about our defense. We all talk about the Oline but I kinda know what that is because there are many of the same faces there as last year plus Nate Davis and the rookie Darnell Wright. Wright at least got enough snaps preseason for me to have a good enough idea that he'll be fine. He's already an upgrade over the version of Larry Borom that started wk 1 last year at RT. Likewise Braxton Jones is also improved over the wk 17 version we last saw, we just don't know how much. Lucas Patrick, even if I don't like him, is still an upgrade over Mustipher. Overall I have some idea what they will look like. The WRs and RBs I have a good idea what to expect with Claypool being the wildcard. TEs we saw what they can do. Fields was stringing together a lot of good practices with some bad mixed in but overall there was a sense that we have a passing game this preseason. We saw good glimpses of the running game here and there. We put up points in a lot of games last year so I feel I know the floor for the offense and it should move upward from that. The defense on the other hand? I don't think I ever saw Edmunds and Edwards at LB in the preseason. The safeties were banged up and we saw very little of Jackson w/ Brisker. Jaylon Johnson missed a lot of time. On the Dline we got a good glimpse of starters Jones and Billings plus the 2 rookie DTs. At DE we saw nothing from starters Walker and Ngakoue. DomRob had a good preseason, Rasheem Green much less so. The D was so bad last year that combined with all the preseason injuries it is literally out of the frame when trying to sort out what we have this year. What does this look like when the pieces are finally together on the field at the same time? So many of the players we relied on are either not on a roster, or buried on a depth chart. Overall I have no clue what this defense brings to the table. I don't see how the Packers can know either. What or who do they try to exploit in coverage? Do we need 20pts to win, 25pts, or 30pts? I think the offense is definitely good for 20pts, and 25pts doesn't seem too unreasonable.

If I'm not mistaken that's Rasheem Greene getting the gold bar for how he set the edge against a running play. If I'm correct, that ability is why he's still here and Lewis isn't. https://www.chicagobears.com/video/bears-new-additions-provide-juice-for-defense-1920-football-drive

One guy was made for TV and the fans react to that stuff, so does the media. Urlacher just did his job at the highest level then took his seat on the bench. He was still the leader on our defense but kept it to his teammates not the flashy stuff.

This what-if scenario is not even worth focusing on for me. I'm only working on one thing: How to win football games. I hope they're doing the same. If we end up with 2 top 5 picks in the draft (thank you Carolina) I'm pretty sure we're getting new coaches.

They already stated that Gordon will focus on NB so if we start with 3 LBs you should see Stevenson on the outside and Gordon on the bench.

Depth chart for Wk 1. No real surprises except perhaps Peterman as QB2. I think that's to be expected early in the season. https://bearswire.usatoday.com/lists/bears-depth-chart-against-packers-week-1/

Yeah, that's some crazy stats.

Poles went with the higher floor and I have no regrets having Darnell Wright on board. Wright fits the culture and as they say in business.....culture eats strategy.

Now we know what their job 1 is on defense. It's going to be interesting to see what this means early on in the game. Is it just rhetoric or are they going to commit 8 to stopping the run and leave guys 1on1 in coverage? That's twofold because if they don't think the Bears can pass protect you just do run blitzes and take your chances down the field. This is where Justin's ability to make the quick read and throw will come into play.

As if you couldn't guess, put me down for 54.

Wow, throwing 33 passes in preseason is a lot of work for a starting QB. Especially one who, as their fans are saying, can already do it all. Most starters are in the 10-20 range. Or to put it more bluntly Love threw as many passes as PJ Walker, and 4 more than Tyson Bagent. https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/stats/player/passing/nfl/preseason/qualifiers/?page=2&sortcol=att&sortdir=descending

I’ll take the upgrade!

We don't need him to learn an entire NFL route tree, just be good on 3 or 4 routes. Toss in the jet sweeps and WR screens and we'll get 4-7 plays out him per game.

Good writeup on Bagent... https://www.si.com/nfl/bears/news/what-tyson-bagents-success-says-for-chicago-bears

I wouldn't be upset if they traded Velus but he is an outstanding KR and he's really good on the jet sweeps and other quick hitting plays. For the KRs this year with the new rules I don't have a clue how that plays out. A returner like Velus is good enough that teams might stay away from trying the short kicks. Or maybe they try it more often? Plus he is good enough as a WR down the field for a defense to worry about (better than CPatterson ever was). We have good top 3 WRs, good TE combination, plus good RBs. All players a D has to respect. I'd like to see what Velus can do working around all that. If teams start to double DJ Moore that opens a gap in coverage. Late in a game after DBs have been beat on by Foreman and Johnson for 3 quarters legs are tired. Then make them go keep up with Velus. If they traded him we could just as easily use Scott on the same plays but his hands might be worse than Velus' and he's not as big and strong in traffic. It's like Velus last year....I don't trust Scott at all yet.

It's not just contract value, Whitehair's performance is starting to drop as well and the injury bug.

Pixote, thank you sir!

I’d bet every team we play has our game marked down as a win or at least winnable.

Nice. That leaves Bagent as #2. Poles was pretty clear that he wanted at least one veteran voice in that room and Peterman seemed to be the preference.